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‘Patients Will Die’: One County’s Challenge To Trump’s ‘Conscience Rights’ Rule

Health care workers sometimes oppose procedures on religious or moral grounds.

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Moral and religious objections to providing health care sometimes arise in medicine: A medical assistant might not agree with blood transfusions. A nurse might not want to assist in sex reassignment surgery.

Last month, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services put out a new rule that “implements full and robust enforcement” of existing laws that protect what the administration calls “conscience rights” for health care workers. The rule is set to go into effect on July 22.

As NPR has previously reported, the new rule expands the kinds of workers who are covered by those laws — to include, for example, reception and billing staff. Even though relatively few of these complaints get submitted to HHS each year, this emphasis on religious freedom has been a hallmark of the department under the Trump administration.

HHS was sued right away over the expansiveness of its new rule — by the states of New York and California and by physician groups, clinics and others.

Santa Clara County in California is asking a federal judge in U.S. District Court, Northern District of California this week to put the Trump rule on hold while the legal process plays out San Francisco and the state of California filed separate motions for preliminary injunctions last week.

To succeed in putting a temporary stop on the rule, at least one of the plaintiffs will need to convince a judge that implementing the rule would cause “irreparable harm.”

So what’s the harm of a rule designed to affirm health workers’ right to exclude themselves from providing medical care that they say violates their religious or moral beliefs?

“If the rule goes through as it’s written, patients will die,” says Santa Clara’s county executive, Jeff Smith, who is a physician as well as an attorney by training.

“We will have a guaranteed situation where a woman has had a complication of an abortion, where she’s bleeding out and needs to have the services of some employee who has moral objections,” Smith predicts. “That patient will die because the employee is not providing the services that are needed.”

Santa Clara has 2 million residents — it is more populous than 14 states, according to 2017 census data. The county runs three hospitals, including a Level 1 trauma center, clinics and pharmacies, all of which rely in part on federal funding to operate.

The issue is not whether employees who have moral objections to providing certain kinds of care should have a way to opt out, according to James Williams, county counsel for Santa Clara. The county already has a policy to deal with that, but it differs from the federal rule in two key ways.

“One: Health care providers need to notify us in advance,” Williams says. “It can’t just be an on-the-fly objection. And that makes sense because, how are you supposed to run a hospital if you don’t know what your staff has a concern about until the actual procedure needs to happen? And second: There’s an exception for dealing with an emergency situation.”

HHS declined to offer comment for this story, because litigation regarding its rule is ongoing. But the department summarized and responded to nearly a quarter-million comments that were submitted during the 60-day public comment period after the rule was first proposed in January 2018.

In response to commenters who raised the emergency issue, HHS said its final rule does not explicitly conflict with federal laws that require health workers to provide emergency treatment for any and all patients.

To this, Santa Clara County counsel Williams responds, “What the [federal] rule doesn’t do is actually say that it doesn’t apply in emergencies.”

If the conscience rule does go into effect, and Santa Clara does not comply with it, the federal funding the county relies on to operate its public health system could be withheld or subject to “funding claw-backs to the extent permitted by law,” according to the HHS rule.

On the other hand, Williams says, if the county attempted to comply with the rule, it would have another problem — figuring out how.

“HHS didn’t explain or consider how this rule would actually be implemented in practice,” Williams says. “The rule kind of suggests that, basically, you need to have extra staffing to accommodate the fact that there may be people who have objections. That would be very costly.”

County officials worry more broadly about the direct impact of the federal rule on patients. In the lawsuit, Santa Clara argues that the rule could delay care, which could, among other things, open the county up to malpractice suits.

And, county officials add, posting notice about the “conscience rights” policy, as the HHS rule instructs, in “a prominent and conspicuous physical location” within hospitals and clinics that receive federal funding could scare away vulnerable patients — including women seeking abortions or transgender patients.

To this last point, HHS wrote in its rule: “The Department disagrees that a notice of federal conscience and anti-discrimination laws would in any way discourage a patient seeking emergency treatment.”

This is not the first time Santa Clara County has sued the Trump administration — the county also sued over Trump’s attempts to undermine DACA and over the administration’s legal threats against sanctuary cities.

The county has had its eye on the conscience rights issue since the rule was proposed in 2018. When the final rule came down in May 2019, Santa Clara was ready to go.

“We have, as a county, more flexibility to litigate because we have a county Board of Supervisors that’s very supportive of patients’ rights,” says Smith, the county executive. “But every county, every public health system, will have the same concerns.”

Trump administration officials say the federal rule is necessary to protect health workers’ religious freedom. As NPR has reported, Roger Severino, the director of HHS’s Office for Civil Rights, has made the right of health workers to refuse to offer care for religious reasons to some patients his signature issue. In a statement sent to NPR, Severino vowed to “defend the rule vigorously.”

The next step: A judge in U.S. District Court will decide whether any of the California plaintiffs pass the test for preliminary injunctive relief — that if the rule goes into effect, they will suffer “irreparable harm.”

If any or all plaintiffs pass that test, the judge could put the rule on hold while the lawsuits play out. Currently, challenges to the rule in New York and San Francisco are both scheduled for hearings on July 12 — just days before the federal rule is set to go into effect.

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Democrats Introduce Bill Allowing Shooting Victims To Sue Gun Industry

California Rep. Adam Schiff speaks at a news conference as Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado (from left), Rept. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell of Florida, Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Rep. Dwight Evans of Pennsylvania look on. The Democratic leaders introduced the Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun Violence Act on Tuesday.

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House and Senate Democrats introduced legislation Tuesday they say will allow victims of gun violence to have their day in court.

The Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun Violence Act aims to repeal federal protections blocking firearm and ammunition manufacturers, dealers and trade groups from most civil lawsuits when a firearm is used unlawfully or in a crime.

Those protections date to 2005, with the passage of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., one of the bill’s co-sponsors, said since PLCAA became law, state and federal courts have “dismissed numerous cases against the gun industry,” adding that other cases were likely not brought at all.

Schiff, surrounded by members of gun violence prevention groups including Moms Demand Action, Brady and March For Our Lives, said the purpose of the legislation was to “correct the error Congress made” nearly a decade and a half ago.

“Responsible actors in the gun industry don’t need this limitation on liability. And the irresponsible ones don’t deserve it,” Schiff told reporters at the announcement of the bill.

PLCAA was signed into law by then-President George W. Bush and championed by the gun industry, including the National Rifle Association.

Lawrence Keane of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a firearms trade association, told NPR his organization “will certainly oppose this legislation.” He called the bill to repeal PLCAA “fundamentally unfair.”

“You would no more charge or blame Ford or General Motors for drunk driving accidents,” Keane said, adding that the current law is “working exactly how Congress intended it.”

Keane and other supporters of the current law say it was passed as a way to ensure that manufacturers, dealers and distributors had protections from what they call “frivolous” lawsuits intended to bankrupt the gun industry.

“All we’re doing through this proposal is giving victims of gun violence their day in court,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., a co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill. “Every other industry has to pay punitive damages if it intentionally and purposefully violates [a] standard of care” toward the community.

“That will provide a powerful incentive as it has done in tobacco, in automobiles, in pharmaceutical drugs, for safer products,” Blumenthal added.

In March, the Connecticut Supreme Court overturned a lower court decision, ruling that Remington Arms could be sued under state law by the families of victims from the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

The court said that Remington, the manufacturer of the rifle that was used in the 2012 attacks in Newtown, Conn., could be sued on the basis of how the company marketed the military-style weapon to civilians.

Mucarsel-Powell speaks at the news conference with Blumenthal (left) and Schiff.

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Blumenthal on Tuesday called it a “narrow victory for the Sandy Hook victims,” adding that it allows families to “go back to the trial court and seek to prove their case. It was by no means a total victory for them.”

The effort to repeal PLCAA by Democrats on Capitol Hill is not new.

Schiff first introduced the measure in 2013, and it has been reintroduced at least two other times without gaining traction.

Democratic lawmakers said momentum is now on their side, pointing to polling that shows 90% of Americans support universal background checks.

Supporters of the new PLCAA repeal also say that the NRA is in a far weaker position now than it was in 2005 because of recent allegations of financial mismanagement; investigations into the group, including one by the attorney general of New York; and inquiries by House Democrats looking into links between NRA officials and individuals with ties to Russia.

As with the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019 and the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019, this new bill faces steep odds since the Senate, controlled by Republicans, has shown no appetite for taking up gun control legislation.

“It is a new day in Congress,” said Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, D-Fla., who highlighted that Wednesday is the third anniversary of the mass shooting at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, where 49 people and the shooter died.

“We will not stop, regardless of the Senate majority leader [Mitch McConnell R-Ky.] ignoring the pleas of the American people.”

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Opioid Crackdown Could Lead To More Drug Company Bankruptcies

Two years ago, the drug company Insys Therapeutics posted a quarter-billion dollars in annual sales. But the Arizona-based firm’s fortunes plummeted so far that on Monday its leaders declared bankruptcy. It was the latest fall-out from the nation’s prescription opioid epidemic, which has killed more than 200,000 Americans and triggered hundreds of lawsuits against Big Pharma.

Insys marketed an opioid pain medication called Subsys that included fentanyl. It generated tens of millions of dollar in annual sales. But like other prescription opioids marketed aggressively by the drug industry, it turned out to be highly addictive.

Many of the drug industry’s biggest companies are tangled up in a wave of opioid litigation, including name brand companies Johnson & Johnson and CVS. It’s unlikely large firms will follow Insys’ lead and seek Chapter 11 protection, but smaller firms including Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin, have already floated the possibility.

Attorneys representing hundreds of communities that hoped to win compensation from Insys issued a statement Monday saying they’ll work to determine whether the company is actually insolvent. “We will actively pursue full financial disclosure for Insys and any other defendant that files for bankruptcy,” the plaintiff group said.

They added that their goal in targeting 21 other drug firms isn’t to put them out of business but to “abate the current opioid epidemic and seek long-term, sustainable solutions.” State and local officials hope to recoup some of the billions of dollars they’ve spent responding to the opioid crisis.

One major state opioid trial is underway now in Oklahoma against Johnson & Johnson, with a second consolidated trial against other firms set to begin in October in Ohio. Judge Dan Polster, who’s presiding over that federal case, has urged the parties to reach a settlement so communities receive some compensation without disrupting the pharmaceutical industry.

Sources tell NPR negotiations are underway but no deal has been reached.

In all, more than 1,800 state and local governments have filed opioid-related lawsuits. Penalties and settlements could run into the tens of billions of dollars, rivaling big tobacco payouts of the 1990s. The move by Insys came a week after the firm pleaded guilty to felony charges that it bribed doctors to prescribe its Subys fentanyl medication to patients who shouldn’t have been using it.

The company agreed to pay the federal government $225 million in penalties. Last month, company founder John Kapoor, once a towering figure in the drug-tech industry, was found guilty on federal racketeering charges along with four other Insys executives. The company still faced numerous other opioid-related lawsuits.

In his statement, Insys CEO Andrew Long, said in a statement those “legacy legal challenges” contributed to the firm’s decision to enter bankruptcy proceedings.

He said bankruptcy proceedings would allow the company to negotiate with creditors.

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Oregon’s Criminal Justice System To Be Examined Over Treatment Of Mentally Ill People

Some Oregon inmates with mental illness are in jail rather than a state mental health hospital. A federal judge will hear arguments Tuesday that Oregon is not providing timely, appropriate care.



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Oregon’s criminal justice system will be examined in a Portland courtroom tomorrow. At issue is how the state treats defendants with mental illnesses. The lawsuit accuses Oregon of letting mentally ill people languish in jail rather than provide the health care they need at the state psychiatric hospital. Oregon Public Broadcasting’s Conrad Wilson reports.

CONRAD WILSON, BYLINE: In December, Carlos Zamora-Skaar was arrested on a felony burglary charge. Court documents show he was undergoing a severe mental health crisis at the time. A few weeks after his arrest, a judge ordered a psychological evaluation at the Oregon State Hospital.

Amanda Thibeault is Zamora-Skaar’s criminal defense attorney.

AMANDA THIBEAULT: January came and went. February came and went. And he was just languishing in jail, where a mentally ill person shouldn’t be.

WILSON: In court, he made delirious statements during hearings, so much so that after months in jail, a judge found him unable to aid in his own defense and ordered him this time to receive treatment at the Oregon State Hospital. But for weeks, that didn’t happen.

It wasn’t until late last month that Zamora-Skaar was finally admitted to the state hospital. The idea is to treat his mental illness until he’s able to aid in his defense. And only then, Thibeault says, can his criminal case move forward.

THIBEAULT: This is happening statewide.

WILSON: Attorneys and mental health experts say, right now, there are about 40 people like Zamora-Skaar with mental health issues who are waiting in Oregon jails to get transferred to the state hospital for treatment.

Emily Cooper is the legal director for Disability Rights Oregon, a nonprofit that sued the state nearly 20 years ago over the same issue and won.

EMILY COOPER: People with mental illness don’t belong in places that are intended to punish. They should be in places that are designed to treat.

WILSON: In 2002, a federal judge found the state can’t keep people in county jails for more than seven days when a state court judge has found they need to be at the state psychiatric hospital.

COOPER: It’s not happening.

WILSON: For years, it was. But in the last year or so, Cooper says the state has a backlog because it’s lost control of the situation.

COOPER: The problem is, nationally and here in Oregon, we haven’t appropriately funded a community behavioral health system to meet the needs of those individuals. And so what’s happened – again, here in Oregon and nationally – is jails have become the de facto mental health provider.

LEE EBY: And that’s to a large extent very true.

WILSON: Captain Lee Eby is the jail commander in Clackamas County, Ore. He says he regularly has people in his jail who are waiting past the seven-day window to be sent to the state hospital for treatment. He says jails have become the new mental hospitals.

EBY: And that’s not the way it should be. And if there’s one thing I would change, it would be that – is to get away from that notion of criminalizing some of the behavior, not having the resources to deal with it.

WILSON: The state’s psychiatric hospital is run by the Oregon Health Authority. Patrick Allen is the agency’s director. He acknowledges it’s taking longer than seven days to admit people from jails.

PATRICK ALLEN: The challenge is that this rate of sending people to us continues to accelerate.

WILSON: He says he’s working to reduce the amount of time people are waiting and to speed up the discharge process for those who no longer need hospital-level care. But Allen says the hospital is also dealing with things that are outside his control.

ALLEN: Sixty percent of people referred to us on an aid and assist order were homeless at the time of their arrest. To me, that speaks volumes in terms of the nature of the kind of problem that we’re struggling with.

WILSON: And while Allen says he’s doing everything he can, that’s of little comfort to those in a jail cell rather than a hospital bed.

For NPR News, I’m Conrad Wilson in Portland.

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Santa Anita Park Resists Call To Suspend Racing After 2 More Horses Die

Santa Anita Park in Southern California is resisting calls to suspend its season, saying recent changes have reduced catastrophic injuries “by 50 percent in racing and by more than 84 percent in training.”

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Los Angeles County’s Santa Anita Park is standing firm against calls to cancel the rest of its racing season after the deaths of two more horses over the weekend, bringing the number of horses that have died at the track since December to 29.

In a highly unusual move Saturday, the California Horse Racing Board asked the park to scuttle competition for the seven remaining race days to “provide the industry more time to fully implement announced safety initiatives and perhaps additional ones.”

But park owner The Stronach Group along with the Thoroughbred Owners of California and California Thoroughbred Trainers released a joint statement Sunday saying the racetrack will remain open until the season ends on June 23.

“Since wide-sweeping reforms have been instituted at Santa Anita, catastrophic injuries have dropped considerably compared to earlier this meet,” the statement read, adding: “To be clear, there are no acceptable losses, and every day we work toward ending all serious injuries. But the reality is that our improvements and changes have been effective.”

Santa Anita suspended racing for much of March, when the toll of horse deaths neared two dozen — twice the rate of the previous year — and as it worked to figure out why so many horses were dying.

Before reopening on March 29, the park announced a series of changes it planned to implement, including limiting the use of pain or anti-inflammatory medications and treatment for horses and improving early detection of preexisting health conditions. Santa Anita had already pledged to bring in outside experts on a regular basis to review its dirt, turf and synthetic course surfaces.

The park says those moves have already reduced catastrophic injuries “by 50 percent in racing and by more than 84 percent in training.”

Since the park reopened, seven more horses have died there.

On Saturday, a horse named Formal Dude was euthanized after “taking a bad step” in a mile race, according to the official race chart. An examination revealed a fractured pelvis, reports The Daily Racing Form.

In response to the death of the 4-year-old gelding, the state Horse Racing Board issued a recommendation Saturday that Santa Anita “suspend racing for the seven remaining race days but that they allow horses to continue to train during that period.”

Santa Anita issued its refusal on Sunday. That same day saw another horse fatality: Truffalino pulled up during the third race of the day, and the jockey dismounted just before the 3-year-old filly collapsed. The horse died of a suspected heart attack.

In an emailed statement, the California Horse Racing Board said it “does not have the authority to suspend a race meet or remove race dates from a current race meet without the approval of the race track operator or without holding a public meeting with ten days public notice.”

At the time Santa Anita suspended races in March, questions swirled about whether heavy Southern California rains and poor track conditions were causing the horse injuries and deaths. But other experts weren’t so sure.

“There’s no obvious answer. So every question is being asked: Is it the surface? Is it the horses that are running on the surface?” Rick Baedeker, executive director of the California Horse Racing Board, told NPR’s All Things Considered in March.

“Racing has become more competitive over a period of time,” Rick Arthur, equine medical director at the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of California, Davis, told NPR’s Tom Goldman. “Horses are worked faster and there are fewer horses to fit the slots that are available. So there’s more pressure on the horses to race more frequently.”

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals says that horses, with their massive frames supported by spindly legs, simply aren’t built to withstand the rigors of training and racing. The organization notes that injuries such as strained tendons or hairline fractures can be difficult to diagnose before a horse is run again.

PETA has called for a nationwide suspension of racing until greater safety measures are put in place. “Trainers, owners, and veterinarians have recklessly controlled racing and imperiled horses for too long, and those days must come to an end,” Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo said in a statement.

And while just a handful of race days remain this season, Santa Anita is set to host the prestigious Breeders’ Cup in November. Amid the spate of horse deaths, according to the LA Times, the Breeders’ Cup committee is considering moving the event to Churchill Downs in Kentucky.

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Ex-Red Sox Star David Ortiz In Stable Condition After Shooting In Dominican Republic

Retired Boston Red Sox player David Ortiz looks at the large television screen last June at Fenway Park in Boston.

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Former Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was shot in the back Sunday at an outdoor bar in the Dominican capital of Santo Domingo. He is reportedly in stable condition after undergoing surgery.

Ortiz, a native of the Dominican Republic, was at the bar in the capital at about 8:50 p.m. when a man on a motorcycle approached and shot him from behind, according to Dominican National Police Director Ney Aldrin Bautista Almonte.

Ortiz’s father, Leo, told local reporters that his son, 43, was “fine” after surgery and that the bullet did not hit any vital organs.

“He is out of surgery and stable; he is resting,” Leo Ortiz said. “Big Papi will be around for a long time.”

Dominican television host Jhoel Lopez and another person were also wounded in the attack, according to The Associated Press. Lopez was shot in the leg, but his injuries were not considered life-threatening.

I’m at peace knowing you out of danger; you a strong man Compai, can’t wait to hear your voice. My thoughts and prayers are with you, see you soon.
Me siento tranquilo de saber que estás fuera de peligro, usted es fuerte Compai, ya quiero oírle la voz. Orando, nos vemos pronto pic.twitter.com/jdSnNsM7eI

— Pedro Martinez (@45PedroMartinez) June 10, 2019

Bautista said that the alleged shooter was captured and beaten by a crowd and that he was undergoing treatment before being questioned by authorities.

The Dial Bar and Lounge, where the assault took place, is located in the eastern part of the capital in a nighlife district known for its high-end dance clubs, according to the AP.

Ortiz, who helped the Red Sox win the World Series three times, hit 541 home runs in his more than 20-year career. He won the MVP award in 2013 and retired after the 2016 season.

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Midwest Flooding Harms Farmer’s Yields

Rain and flooding have made growing conditions difficult for crops like corn. NPR’s Michel Martin speaks with Matt Boucher, a farmer in Dwight, Ill., about how the weather has affected his crops.



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And now to the Midwest, where heavy rainfall has made growing conditions tough for farmers. One crop in particular – corn – has been hit hard. According to the Department of Agriculture, this is the slowest start to the corn-planting season on record. To hear more about this, we’ve called Matt Boucher. He’s a fourth generation farmer from Dwight, Ill., where he grows corn as well as soybeans, wheat and cover crops. And in fact, we caught him out in the field, where he’s trying to plant. Matt, welcome. Thanks so much for joining us.

MATT BOUCHER: Thanks for having us. Appreciate it.

MARTIN: Well, walk me through the season. What would normally have happened by now, and what has actually happened now?

BOUCHER: Well, we’re normally completed now. We’re moving on to fertilizing corn and maintaining the weed pressures, you know, keeping the weeds out of the field. But right now it’s just not the case. We’re still planting and trying to get things in and might have some acres we’re just not going to be able to get in, no matter what we do.

MARTIN: And why is that? It’s just that the ground’s been too wet or what? Why is that?

BOUCHER: Yes. The ground has been too wet. Every time we turn around, it seems like we keep getting a rain shower that we don’t need. But normally in the planting season, we have a four, five or six-day window of dry weather where we can go out and plant. And then it might rain. And then we’ll have another four or five, six-day window. This year, we’ve only been able to plant on five different days now total.

MARTIN: So how much of your normal crop have you been able to get into the ground?

BOUCHER: We’re small compared to some of the other growers throughout the state here in Illinois. But we normally have everything in the ground. As of Monday, we only had about 25% or so in the ground tops, actually a little bit less than that.

MARTIN: So what are you going to do? As you said, like, normally, you’ve had your corn in. And then I guess you’d move onto your beans. What are you going to do?

BOUCHER: Right now we have a few different options. We do carry crop insurance, as does many of the farmers throughout the state and throughout the Midwest, for that matter. And we do have an option to take what they call prevent plants. That’s part of our crop insurance.

MARTIN: What happens if you and all of your neighbors don’t get your corn into the field? Like I say, as you’ve told me now, you’ve got like only about a fraction in the ground if what you normally would have at this time of year. Are we going to – forgive me for being selfish about it – are we not going to have corn this summer to go with our barbecues and everything else or what? What’s going to happen?

BOUCHER: The corn the majority of the Midwest grows goes toward feeding pigs, feeding cows, feeding a lot of different livestock, also goes toward corn oil and ethanol and various products that are on our store shelves. Long story short, we’re looking at lower supply, which should increase the price if the demand stays the same.

MARTIN: But before we let you go, I mentioned that you’re a fourth-generation farmer. And I presume that you’ve talked to your parents about the rain situation, the heavy rains. Have they ever seen anything like this before?

BOUCHER: No. This is relatively unprecedented. I was talking to a neighbor here the other day about the drought in 2012. And, you know, we had a really short crop in 2012 because it got so hot and so dry. The corn crop didn’t amount to anything, but at least we were able to get it in the ground. When you go out into a situation like this where we can’t get the seed into the ground, it’s worse than a drought for the fact that, you know, you don’t even have a chance.

MARTIN: Well, that’s Matt Boucher. He is a farmer in Dwight, Ill. We actually reached him out in the field, and he was nice enough to take a little bit of time out to talk with us. Good luck, Mr. Boucher. We will keep a good thought for you and your neighbors. Thank you so much.

BOUCHER: Thank you much, appreciate it.

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San Francisco Community Rallies To Save Historic Comedy Club

Punch Line, the oldest comedy club San Francisco, may be the next casualty in the city’s steady march from bohemian enclave to tech office park. Politicians and comedians are fighting to save it.



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Comedian Dave Chappelle calls it one of the most important rooms for American culture. And now this room is at risk of being lost forever to the accelerating forces of big tech. Punch Line Comedy Club, the oldest in San Francisco’s once-vibrant standup scene, cannot renew its lease. And it’s not because Punch Line doesn’t have the money. NPR’s Aarti Shahani has this story.

AARTI SHAHANI, BYLINE: Punch Line opened its doors in 1978. Household names have stood on this stage – Robin Williams, Dana Carvey, Ali Wong, Nato Green. All right, that last one is only household in the local scene.

NATE GREEN: I need to talk to you about politics. Some people don’t want to talk about politics. They’re, like, Nato, why do you got to talk about politics? What do politics have to do with me? I’m not an immigrant or a black person or a Muslim or gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or a Jew or a woman or an old person or a young person.

SHAHANI: You get it. By day, Green is a labor organizer fighting for nurses at the hospital renamed after Mark Zuckerberg’s family. By night, he’s grappling with becoming the entertainment help for the Facebook, Google, Apple, Salesforce engineers looking to unwind after their hard day’s work. Green tells himself to smile more when he’s about to singe his audience, like now.

GREEN: And if you’re a tech person, I want you to know I don’t hate you. I don’t have anything against you personally, just everything that you represent.

SHAHANI: Punch Line may be the next casualty in San Francisco’s march from bohemian enclave to tech office park. At least six comedy clubs have closed in the last decade. Punch Line was supposed to be invincible. It’s owned by Live Nation, a multi-billion-dollar company. But bigger billionaires have declined to renew the club’s lease. Green and other comedians speculate that property owner Morgan Stanley has a different vision for a space – tech workers to replace culture workers.

GREEN: People programming computer programs so that other people somewhere else can look up what it is like to be in person at a comedy club – that’s instead of having an actual human experience.

SHAHANI: Tech has created opportunities for comedy – the endless stream of curated standup on Netflix and Hulu. But Green says that’s no substitute for the messy, creative chaos of the physical world. He and his friends got paid to try out new material, fail and fail fast or rise in this intimate venue.

CHRIS GARCIA: It looks exactly the same. I mean…

SHAHANI: Comedian Chris Garcia, this night’s headliner, at the bar in the back.

Yeah, the rug definitely doesn’t look new.

GARCIA: Yeah, that rug is old. Yeah, you look at this brass. This is – like, that’s from the cocaine days (laughter).

SHAHANI: Comedian-organizer Green turned this fight to save the Punch Line into an all-out campaign. He sent up the smoke signal. In response, one of the biggest names in comedy came and stood beside him on the steps of San Francisco City Hall.

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DAVE CHAPPELLE: When I quit my show, that room became like a home to me.

SHAHANI: Dave Chappelle, who came to town to perform at the Punch Line.

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CHAPPELLE: It was the last place I saw Robin Williams alive. It was the place I was at when I found out I was having my first kid.

SHAHANI: Now, the skeptics may say, just move the club to a new space. What’s the big deal?

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CHAPPELLE: It’d be like burning down the Louvre or selling the Louvre to somebody. And there’s beautiful art that’s going up in this city, and you can’t just put it in another room. That room is special.

SHAHANI: This past week, the government stepped in. City supervisors unanimously passed an emergency ordinance that says whatever the owner wants to do with the room, it’s got to be used for entertainment. The move was unusual and also temporary. Morgan Stanley declined to comment, but one of its other tenants, Google, said in a statement they want to keep the Punch Line as their neighbors. Aarti Shahani, NPR News, San Francisco.

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Saturday Sports: Toronto Raptors, Women’s World Cup

The NBA and NHL are in the middle of finals, while the Women’s World Cup begins. NPR’s Scott Simon talks to ESPN’s Howard Bryant.



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Revile the reptile. The Toronto Raptors are just a win away from a world championship over one of the world’s greatest franchises. And in hockey, the St. Louis Blues could also put away the Boston Bruins. In Paris, it’s le football season, eh? The Women’s World Cup kicked off yesterday. Howard Bryant of espn.com and ESPN The Magazine, which is going away later this year, but you’ll still be with us, right, Howard?

HOWARD BRYANT, BYLINE: I’m still with you, Scott. How are you?

SIMON: Fine, thank you. Good to talk to you, my friend. Listen – oh, wait, I got another one, OK?

BRYANT: No. Please. Don’t do it.

SIMON: No, no. Hey, Howard – cut his mic. Here we go. Hence forth, the North.

BRYANT: (Laughter).

SIMON: How’s that?

BRYANT: (Laughter).

SIMON: A little better?

BRYANT: We – I think we, the north, just works. And it’s been working really, really well…

SIMON: Been working well for them. OK.

BRYANT: …For the Toronto Raptors right now.

SIMON: The Raptors drubbed – drubbed the Dubs, if you please – 105-92 last night. It’s not just that they were three games – up three games to one. They’ve looked in command in almost every quarter of the series, haven’t they?

BRYANT: Well, they have. And once again, as we say all the time, is that the NBA is the best player wins the sport. And right now, Kawhi Leonard is the best player on the planet. And let’s also just not forget that the Warriors are playing very shorthanded. They didn’t have Kevon Looney for the – for Game 3. They – obviously, Kevin Durant hasn’t played in the entire series. You didn’t have Klay Thompson in Game 3.

And so on top of everything else that’s taken place with them as a team and going to the finals five straight seasons and trying to win three straight championships – to be the first team to do that, you know, in years anyway – and I think that this is a – it’s an amazing, amazing run for them. But the pressure is also very difficult for them, too.

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: It’s a hard conversation to have because you wish that you would have both teams playing at full strength, but you got to deal with what’s in front of you. And the Toronto Raptors – never been in the finals – and they are playing great basketball right now.

SIMON: I got to ask. Look; a co-owner of the Warriors, an investment billionaire named Mark Stevens – and I have read he has given lots of money to many good causes – felt that his courtside seat entitled him the other night to shove and swear at Toronto’s Kyle Lowry. This is the kind of fan that gives fans a bad name.

BRYANT: Yeah, most certainly. And he’s not a fan. He’s a co-owner. So he’s not just a fan. He’s…

SIMON: Right.

BRYANT: …Somebody who’s got a financial stake in the game. It was an ugly incident. It was completely unnecessary. It would be very surprising to me if the NBA doesn’t come down on him to the point where he’s not – where he’s forced to sell his shares. I think that this is one of those examples, too, where you’re going to find out the power of the players in terms of how much they’re going to take from fans and especially co-owners because let’s not forget, this has been a theme throughout the NBA season…

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: …Where fan abuse has become something that is – just, you know, where the players have decided that, hey, we’re not going to take this anymore. We’re not zoo animals, OK? You’re here to watch…

SIMON: Yup.

BRYANT: …The game, but you also have to respect us.

SIMON: NHL finals – next game is tomorrow. The St. Louis Blues up 3-2 over the Boston Bruins. Why and how?

BRYANT: Well, No. 1, because they’re a very, very tough team. And that’s the – this is funny. We talk about hockey in the 2000s, but this looks like hockey in the 1970s. I thought I was watching the…

SIMON: Yeah.

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SIMON: Yeah, Blues and Bruins, yeah.

BRYANT: Exactly. I thought I was watching the Bruins and the Flyers from ’74. The Blues are a brutal, brutal, tough hockey team, and they are just physic – you know, they’re very physical. They’re crushing the Bruins. In terms of hits, there’s been suspensions in this playoff. But the bottom line – you know, the Bruins are complaining about the referees. But the bottom line is that the Blues have just been – they’ve outlasted everybody. They just continue to be a really tough hockey team. And they’re one game away from doing something that franchise has never done, which is win the Stanley Cup.

SIMON: Yeah. Women’s World Cup started yesterday. The U.S. plays its first match Tuesday against Thailand. Who looks good? I am told – aha – Les Bleus.

BRYANT: Well, they’re the hosts, so they always look good. But obviously, the defending champions are the United States. You’ve got a great group going on. You’ve got Japan and England in the same group. And Japan and the United States have played back-to-back finals. So I think that, obviously, the United States are the favorites. You’ve got Germany, England and Japan. Japan’s not as good as they were the last couple of World Cups. But at the same time, I’m looking at the United States. They’re the – to me, they’re the team to beat.

SIMON: French Open starts today. No names that I recognized; you would, my friend.

BRYANT: Well, the big star – or not the star – the infamous star of this entire tournament has been the weather because it has been very, very difficult to try to get these matches in. And by the end of this tournament, I think people are going to look at this tournament, and they’re going to say we’re going to remember this one for the rain instead of the players.

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: Yeah.

SIMON: Howard Bryant of ESPN, thanks so much for being with us.

BRYANT: Oh, my pleasure.

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Storytelling Helps Hospital Staff Discover The Person Within The Patient

Thor Ringler (right) interviewed Ray Miller (left) in Miller’s hospital room at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison, Wis., in April. Miller’s daughter Barbara (center) brought in photos and a press clipping from Miller’s time in the National Guard to help facilitate the conversation.

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Bob Hall was recovering from yet another surgery when the volunteer first walked into his hospital room. It was March 2014, and unfortunately Hall had been in and out of the hospital quite a bit. It had been a rocky recovery since his lung transplant, three months earlier, at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison, Wis.

But the volunteer wasn’t there to check on his lungs or breathing. Instead she asked Hall if we wanted to tell his life story.

Hall was being treated at the VA because he had served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. After the war, he had a political career as a Massachusetts legislator, and then led professional associations for 30 years.

Hall, who was 67 at the time, welcomed the volunteer and told her he’d be happy to participate.

“I’m anything but a shy guy, and I’m always eager to share details about my life,” Hall says, half-jokingly.

He spoke to the volunteer for more than an hour about everything — from his time as “a D student” in high school (“I tell people I graduated in the top 95 percent of my class”) to his time in the military (“I thought the Marines were the toughest branch and I wanted to stop the communists”). He finished his story with a description of his health problems — those that that finally landed him in the hospital, and many that continue to the present day.

The interview was part of a program called My Life, My Story. Volunteer writers seek out vets like Hall in the hospital, and ask them about their lives. Then they write up this life story, a 1,000-word biography, and go over it with the patient, who can add more details or correct any mistakes.

“Of course, being a writer I rewrote the whole thing,” Hall confesses with a smile.

Once the story is finished, it’s entered into to the patient’s electronic medical record, so any doctor or nurse working anywhere in the VA system who opens the medical record can read it.

Hall was one of the earliest patients interviewed for the project, back in 2014. Today more than 2,000 patients at the Madison VA have shared their personal life stories.

Project organizers say My Life, My Story could change the way providers interact with patients at VA hospitals around the country.

Bob Hall was one of the earliest patients to be interviewed for the My Life, My Story program at the VA hospital in Madison, Wisc. “I’d never experienced something like that in a hospital before,” Hall says.

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A close-up of Hall’s photograph of his conversation with children in a Vietnamese village. He served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War — an important part of his personal story.

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Personalizing impersonal records

“If you’re a health care person, if you’re someone who is in the [electronic medical] record all the time, you’ll know that the record is a mess,” says Thor Ringler, who has managed the My Life, My Story project since 2013.

Clinicians can get access to a lot of medical data through a patient’s electronic medical record, but there’s nowhere to learn about a patient’s personality, or learn about her career, passions or values, Ringler says.

“If you were to try to get a sense of someone’s life from that record, it might take you days,” Ringler says.

The idea for My Life, My Story came from Dr. Elliot Lee, a medical resident who was doing a training rotation at the Madison VA in 2012. The typical rotation for medical residents lasts only about a year, so Lee wanted to find a way to bring these new, young doctors quickly up to speed on the VA patients. He wanted a way for them to absorb not just their health histories, but more personal information, like their hobbies, and which hospital staffers knew them best.

“It seemed to make sense that the patient might know a lot about themselves, and could help provide information to the new doctor,” Lee recalls.

But the question remained: What was the best way to get patients to share these details, to get their life stories into the records? Lee says he and some colleagues tried having patients fill out surveys, which were useful but still left the team wanting more. Next, they tried getting patients to write down their life stories themselves, but not many people really wanted to. Finally, an epiphany: Hire a writer to interview the patients, and put what they learned on paper.

It wasn’t hard to find a good candidate: A poet in Madison, Thor Ringler, had also just finished his training as a family therapist. He was good at talking to people, and also skilled at condensing big thoughts into concise, meaningful sentences.

“Of course!” Ringler remembers thinking. “I was made for that!'”

Thor Ringler has run the My Life, My Story program at the the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison since 2013. In that time the program has recorded life stories of more than 2,000 veterans — and placed the short biographies in each vet’s’ electronic medical record.

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Under Ringler’s guidance, the project has developed a set of training materials to allow other VA hospitals to launch their own storytelling programs. About 40 VA hospitals around the U.S. are currently interested, according to Ringler.

Based on his experience building the program in Madison, Ringler estimates hospitals would need to hire just one writer — working half- or full-time, depending on the hospital’s size — to manage a similar storytelling program. That means the budget could be as low as $23,000 a year. That relatively small investment can pay huge dividends in terms of patient satisfaction, Ringler says, by restoring personal connections between patients and the medical team.

“If we do good stories, people will read them, and they will want to read them,” he adds.

In addition to the interest from within the VA system, the idea has spread farther — to hospitals like Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, and Regions Hospital in St. Paul, Minn.

A ‘gift’ to doctors and nurses

There is also research suggesting that when caregivers know their patients better, those patients have improved health outcomes.

One study, for example, found that doctors who scored higher on an empathy test had patients with better-controlled blood sugar. Another study found that in patients with a common cold, the cold’s duration was reduced by nearly a full day for those patients who gave their doctor a top rating for empathy.

University of Colorado professor Heather Coats studies the health impact of biographical storytelling. She notes a 2008 study found that radiologists did a more thorough job when they were simply provided a photo of the patients whose scans they were reading.

“They improved the accuracy of their radiology read,” Coats says. “Meaning [fewer] misspelled words; a better report that’s more detailed.” Current research is investigating whether storytelling might have a similar effect on clinical outcomes.

And, Coats adds, the benefits of the kind of storytelling happening at the VA don’t just accrue to the patients.

“I consider it a gift to the nurses and the doctors,” Coats says.

A survey of clinicians conducted by the Madison VA backs that up: It showed 85 percent of them thought reading the biographies of patients produced by Thor Ringler’s team of writers was “a good use” of clinical time and also helped them improve patient care.

“It gives you a much better understanding about the entirety of their life and how to help them make a decision,” says Dr. Jim Maloney, a VA surgeon who performed Bob Hall’s lung transplant in 2013.

That’s critical for doctors like Maloney, because only about half the people who undergo a lung transplant are still alive after five years. Maloney believes knowing more about a patient’s life story makes it easier for the doctor to have difficult but necessary conversations with a patient — to learn, for example, how aggressively to respond if a complication occurs.

Jim Maloney, a transplant surgeon at the Madison VA, says being able to read a patient’s personal story, along with their medical story, helps him help them through difficult decisions. “It gives you a much better sense of the entirety of their lives,” Maloney says.

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Maloney says the stories generated by My Life, My Story give the entire transplant team near immediate access to a valuable tool, one that helps them connect quickly with patients and family members, and start conversations about sensitive issues or difficult choices about end-of-life care.

Dr. Tamara Feingold-Link has also experienced the power of being able to read a patient’s life story. Now a second-year medical resident at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Feingold-Link first encountered one of the biographies generated by My Life, My Story when she was on rotation at a Boston-area VA. Her attending physician asked her to run a meeting with a patient’s family.

“I barely knew the patient, who was so sick he could hardly talk,” Feingold-Link recalls.

She noticed his medical record included the patient’s life story, something she had never seen before. She immediately read the story.

“It brought me to tears,” she remembers. “When I met his family, I could connect with them immediately.”

“It made his transfer to hospice much smoother for everyone involved,” she says.

Now Dr. Feingold-Link has started a similar program at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

Meaningful stories go beyond medical care

Bob Hall has learned the stories can be meaningful to caregivers even when they’re not working. During one of his stays at the Madison VA, a nursing aide came into his room after she read his life story in his medical record.

“She came in one night and sat down on my bed just to talk to me for a while, because she’d read my story,” Hall says. “I found out later she wasn’t on the clock. She just came in after her shift ended to chat for a while.”

It’s been 5 years since Hall’s lung transplant, and he’s doing well. He even found a part-time job putting his writing skills to work as part of the My Life, My Story team. In just two years, Hall has written 208 capsule biographies of veterans who come to this hospital for care, just like he did.

“Dr. Maloney came to me one day recently, and I was telling him how many stories I’d done,” Halls says, “and he says, ‘You know I think you’ve given more back to the VA with these stories than they gave to you.'”

“I said, ‘Doctor, I don’t think that’s true, but it’s very kind of you to say so.’ It made me feel good.”

This story is part of NPR’s reporting partnership with Kaiser Health News.

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