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With two weeks remaining in the NFL’s regular season, the Carolina Panthers remain undefeated. NPR’s Robert Siegel discusses the Panthers, their quarterback, and the last two weeks of the season with Jane McManus of ESPN.com.

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ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST:

The Carolina Panthers are 14-0. Now if the magnitude of that fact is lost on you, consider this. There are just two weeks remaining in the National Football League’s regular season and if the Panthers win their last two games, they will become only the second team in NFL history to go 16-0 in the regular season. A team that you didn’t hear a lot about before the season began could be one for the record books. Espn.com’s Jane McManus was at the game yesterday when the Panthers beat the team we still call the New York Giants, even though they play and practice in New Jersey. Jane McManus, welcome to the program.

JANE MCMANUS: Thank you.

SIEGEL: The Panthers led early, squandered that lead, but quarterback Cam Newton led them to an end-of-the-game field goal. How good is Cam Newton?

MCMANUS: I think he’s making a bid to be one of the quarterbacks who’s going to emerge as the inheritor of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady’s legend. Those two quarterbacks are at the end of their career, and Cam Newton appears to be poised to make a bid and say that he is one of the next generation coming up. He has been electric this season, particularly yesterday when he scrambled for 10 yards to get the Panthers, at the very end of the fourth quarter, into field goal range. They kicked a field goal and won that game.

SIEGEL: You say he would be a successor Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. He cuts – physically, he cuts a very different figure from those two quarterbacks.

MCMANUS: Well, he’s a running quarterback, which means that he’s not afraid to scramble. He had exactly 100 yards yesterday, which is impressive for a quarterback. He’s six-foot-five. But he’s very different also in his demeanor. He seems to have a lot more fun on the field. He’s big into smiling. He’ll dance in the end zone. And I think that those are some of the things that make him really likable to a lot of NFL fans.

SIEGEL: Truthfully, back in September when you looked ahead to this season, could you imagine Carolina being 14-0 at this point?

MCMANUS: I think at that time, people didn’t really know exactly what that team was going to be. Cam Newton has always been a very promising player, but he hasn’t really emerged. He’s kind of been in this class of quarterbacks who’ve been very good and very promising but haven’t made the leap. And Cam Newton really did take that step forward, giant step forward.

SIEGEL: So here’s a question. Say you’re the head coach of a team that’s 14-0 -15-0, and you’re looking at the last game of the season. Do you sit some key players to give them some rest before the playoffs and possibly risk the glory of an undefeated season?

MCMANUS: Thank goodness I’m not a head – an NFL head coach so that I have to make that decision, but I would think it hinges on injuries. If you have a player like Cam Newton who took a hard hit in yesterday’s game right before the half – and let’s say those injuries are cumulative. That might be a good reason to rest a player. I would worry, though, if you have a healthy player and you’re keeping him out. Yes it’s safer, but at the same time you take him out of a rhythm and you take him out of, you know, kind of football shape. There’s a pounding that your body has to be used to taking in order to play a football game well. I think you want your players at their peak.

SIEGEL: When you look ahead to the playoffs, do the Panthers look especially strong, or do they start playing tougher teams?

MCMANUS: You know, Cam Newton’s numbers were great yesterday and he’s had some really high MVP games, but he hasn’t always had the same kind of numbers that some of the, you know, the Tom Bradys and the Peyton Mannings have had during the regular season. So I think that there’s this perception that they possibly could be picked off depending, you know, on how they finish the season. But at the same time, I think you see a game like yesterday – this team is only getting better, and I think they’re going into the playoffs on a high note depending on what happens again in the next two games.

SIEGEL: Jane McManus, who covers the NFL for espn.com. Thank you for talking with us, Jane.

MCMANUS: Any time.

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Mike Pesca, host of Slate’s The Gist podcast, has some opinions about how Adam Silver of the NBA and Roger Goodell of the NFL run thir respective sports leagues.

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Time now for sports.

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MARTIN: And today we’re going to talk about leadership because our friend Mike Pesca has some opinions about how the men at the top of their respective sports leagues use their positions to greater and lesser effect. We are talking about the head of the NBA, Adam Silver, and the commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell. Mike is, of course, the host of The Gist on Slate. He joins me now. Hey, Mike.

MIKE PESCA, BYLINE: Yes, I lead The Gist.

MARTIN: You do. You’re the leader. OK, Adam Silver was in the news this past week because he gave this interview with Yahoo Sports that you found particularly illuminating. How come?

PESCA: That’s right. That’s right. So the incident we’re talking about is on December 3, Rajon Rando was suspended for going nuts on the basketball court, staring down an official. And for a little while, no one knows what was behind it. But it turns out he directed an anti-gay slur at the official. And he wasn’t suspended. It took eight days for that suspension to come down. Three days after the suspension came down, the official came out as gay. And so Adam Silver was a bit criticized. On the one hand, no one has ever been suspended for an anti-gay slur. They have been fined. Joakim Noah and Kobe Bryant have been fined. So it was unprecedented. So you could say, wow, this was the stiffest penalty. On the other hand, a lot of people were saying there was a huge delay and he should’ve been suspended more to send a message. So this interview with Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo, he laid out his thinking. And it was really illuminating. It was illuminating on a couple – for a – on a couple levels but because I think implicitly, and I wouldn’t be surprised if explicitly, he was contrasting his thought process with how Roger Goodell suspends people in the NFL.

MARTIN: OK, explain because he – Silver has been given a lot of props and treated very kindly by the media – Roger Goodell, not so much.

PESCA: Yeah, overall. Although this Rando thing, I’ve seen headlines – is this is first misstep? And one of the reasons Silver was given props is he handled the Donald Sterling incident, the owner of the Clippers, very well. So in this, Silver said a few things. One, if he came out with a harder suspension before Bill Kennedy, the referee, had come out, it would sort of be putting the onus on Kennedy to come out. He thought – he’d worried that he’d out Kennedy. But he also talked about how much he values due process. There are a couple unions involved, not just Rando’s but Bill Kennedy, the referee, is in a union. And that is in contrast with how Roger Goodell does his job. He doesn’t say I don’t value due process, but if you look at the facts, he suspends harshly. And then in really prominent cases, like the New Orleans Saints, like Ray Rice, like Adrian Peterson, they all get overturned either on appeal or by an independent arbitrator. So it doesn’t hold up. And the other thing – and I think this was really illuminating – specifically Silver said, quote, “I don’t think we should be making examples of anyone. I think that’s why the Players Association exists through check authority.” Whereas if you look at what Goodell says, he believes in making examples. And after the Saints case, he says, it calls for a very significant and clear message. It’s a different management style and it seems that Silver is more of a 21st century or second eighth of the 21st century type of manager, also a better communicator. Maybe, I better…

MARTIN: But these are really different leagues, Mike.

PESCA: That’s right.

MARTIN: I mean, they’re different animals.

PESCA: Yes, and, you know, I would say what it really comes down to is you have to serve your constituency. Adam Silver’s owners, a lot of them are tech billionaires, a little younger, a little more progressive. And the NFL owners, old-school owners. And of course, they love Roger Goodell. That’s why he gets paid, you know, 30, $40 million. So people are acting as if they are – as they are incentivized to act. But I see a real difference and I think it’s really interesting.

MARTIN: Mike Pesca, he’s the host of The Gist on Slate. Thanks, Mike.

PESCA: You’re welcome.

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NPR’s Scott Simon speaks with Howard Bryant of ESPN.com and ESPN the magazine about the big sports stories of 2015, and what to expect in the new year.

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And now it’s time for sports.

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SIMON: The highlight of my week at the office – right alongside telling you that BJ Leiderman writes our theme music – here to talk about sports highlights of 2015, our man Howard Bryant of espn.com and ESPN The Magazine. Howard, thanks for being with us.

HOWARD BRYANT: Good morning, Scott.

SIMON: What stories stand out for you?

BRYANT: Well, I think above anything else the story of the year really was the protests with the University of Missouri and the athletes showing their power. For the second straight year you’ve seen players really distancing himself from the old 1980s and 1990s model of the player hiding behind their riches in their gated communities. I think Missouri really proved that athletes can change the society, as we saw with the president resigning and the chancellor resigning as well. I think that – and the response is, well, even though the bill was finally killed that you saw how power was going to react when a Missouri representative – a state representative wanted to enact a bill that would strip scholarships from players who wanted to strike or refuse to play. So I think that the power knows that athletes, if they use it in a billion-dollar industry, can really affect the landscape across political and across social lines.

SIMON: Of course, at the same time, we heard a lot about the crimes of athletes, and I’m thinking of domestic violence charges especially. But does it seem to you more athletes are becoming conscious of their role as prominent citizens?

BRYANT: Oh, I think so, and I think you always follow the leader. I think in the 1980s and 1990s, of course, remember the famed Republicans buy shoes, too, line from Michael Jordan, even though no one knows if he actually ever said it or not. I think when you look at LeBron James as a player now as a guy who’s really different from those old days, he’s a guy who really does look at his role. We saw it with Trayvon Martin. We saw it with Donald Sterling in 2014, and now you look at some of the younger players in college. Remember the – Northwestern last year started to unionize or looked into unionizing. And now Missouri, the football players in October and November took on the university. So absolutely you see a change and this is a post – these kids are – their African-American post-Ferguson generation is very, very different from 30 years ago.

SIMON: I want to add a few things as a fan, OK, for 2015 highlights. The unrivaled excellence of Serena Williams, the athleticism of American Pharaoh, which, by the way, I don’t weigh on the same scale

BRYANT: (Laughter) Good, good.

SIMON: And the Kansas City Royals winning the World Series with grit, guile, speed, fielding. That was exciting.

BRYANT: And determination after, I think, one of my favorite stories in sports is when a team comes really close. We don’t see it very often when a team comes really close and they go out and then they lose. And usually that’s it, especially a team at their level. They’re not the New York Yankees. They don’t have a gazillion dollars spent on payroll. But they came close in 2014, and they lost the World Series at home to the San Francisco Giants. And the very next year, starting the first day of spring training, it was we are going out to win the World Series. We’re going to go get what we didn’t get last year. And they did. They went out and they saw, they conquered and they came through in a way that was really thrilling. And to have not won since 1985 was also great. And also the Golden State Warriors, as well, also a lot of fun.

SIMON: Yes. And what are you looking forward to in 2016? What do you keep your eye on?

BRYANT: Well, I want to see more – I want to – I really want to see how players react to what is coming. You know there’s going to be a response socially, whenever the next controversy’s going to be. I’m very interested in hopefully seeing a Golden State Warriors and San Antonio Spurs Eastern Conference final. I want to see those two teams go at it, and there’s always something great.

SIMON: Wait – Cleveland rocks.

BRYANT: (Laughter) And of course, let’s not forget King James

SIMON: Yeah. And those three teams are having – you wonder if they can – they’re all having splendid years and you wonder how long that lasts. I’m looking forward to it.

BRYANT: Right, Christmas Day, Cavs and Warriors.

SIMON: Oh, my gosh, really?

BRYANT: Yes.

SIMON: Oh, I think I know what I’m doing. Howard Bryant of espn.com and ESPN The Magazine. With my family – we’ll watch together. You, too. Nice to talk to you, my friend. Talk to you in the new year.

BRYANT: Merry Christmas.

SIMON: Merry Christmas.

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