{"id":3065,"date":"2015-06-23T17:47:21","date_gmt":"2015-06-24T01:47:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/?p=3065"},"modified":"2015-06-23T17:47:21","modified_gmt":"2015-06-24T01:47:21","slug":"startup-founder-claims-2-8-billion-startup-slack-is-misleading-people-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/startup-founder-claims-2-8-billion-startup-slack-is-misleading-people-about\/","title":{"rendered":"Startup founder claims $2.8 billion startup Slack is misleading people about &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Slack, the $2.8 billion business communications app, has long advertised itself as a freemium product, where an unlimited number of users can use it for free before deciding to upgrade and pay money for more robust package with better features.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>For example, on its pricing page, it says, Slack is free to use for as long as you want,\u00a0and with an unlimited number of people.<\/p>\n<p>But Quincy Larson, founder of an open source code learning community called Free Code Camp, uncovered\u00a0a hidden user limit for free users that Slack does not clearly mention on its site.<\/p>\n<p>He says once he added 8,462 users to his Slack channel, it stopped accepting new users.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Theres no mention of it anywhere, and yet its clear this limit exists. Its just hidden, Larson told Business Insider. There are hundreds of open source communities blindly signing up for Slack, not knowing that theyre rapidly hurdling toward this limit that will basically halt their communitys growth.<\/p>\n<p>Now, this limit apparently strikes only when more than 8,462 users are added to a single channel. Its possible to create many different channels within Slack, which is how most companies use it.<\/p>\n<p>But for an open source community like Free Code Camp, its important to use a messaging app that has the capacity to hold thousands of users in a single chat room. Larsons site, for example, has 35,000 total users, who mainly communicate through one big general channel.<\/p>\n<p>After discovering the user limit, Larson reached out to Slacks service desk, but they also seemed confused with what they could offer. As Larson explains on his blog, Slack initially told him they could fix it, only to retract later and tell him that hes reached the maximum user limit for a Slack team.<\/p>\n<p>FreeCodeCamp<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Because of the user limitation, and not having the resources to upgrade to the paying service, FreeCodeCamp has decided to switch back to Gitter, a Github based chatroom system, which offers unlimited user space. Larson says the migration back to Gitter will cost lots of resources because it will have move infrastructure and all the current users who had signed up to its Slack channel.<\/p>\n<p>Larson says even if Slack changes its policy, theres no chance hes going back to Slack. The cost of moving is tremendous, he said. Slack is not a good choice for large communities.<\/p>\n<p>When Business Insider asked about this limit, Slacks representative did not directly answer the question, but\u00a0directed us to its pricing page, where it states, We offer a free plan for small\u00a0teams, casual users, and anyone who wants to evaluate Slack.<\/p>\n<p>The spokesperson added:<\/p>\n<p>Based on\u00a0that, it&#8217;s difficult to infer Slack would be an appropriate tool for\u00a0use by a 10,000 person community.\u00a0Slack would love to be able to support all kinds of uses, but we also\u00a0need to prioritize the uses for which Slack was designed and the needs\u00a0of existing customers, who have very reasonable expectations about\u00a0ongoing support and continued investment in the product.\u00a0It&#8217;s not possible for one product to simultaneously serve the specific\u00a0needs of working teams and large communities, at least not to the\u00a0level of quality for which Slack aims. The requirements are just too\u00a0different and often diametrically opposed.<\/p>\n<p>Even so, Slack really should update the language on its site. As seen in the screenshot below, Slack does state theres no limit on how many people you can add to your team on its free pricing page.<\/p>\n<p>FreeCodeCamp.com<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/slack-free-unlimited-plan-has-limits-2015-6\" rel=\"nofollow\">article source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Slack, the $2.8 billion business communications app, has long advertised itself as a freemium product, where an unlimited number of users can use it for free before deciding to upgrade and pay money for more&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[5],"class_list":["post-3065","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-business-2","tag-business"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3065","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3065"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3065\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3066,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3065\/revisions\/3066"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3065"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3065"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/associatednews.info\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3065"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}