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ESPN Site 'The Undefeated' To Explore Intersection Of Sports And Race

ESPN is set Tuesday to launch “The Undefeated,” a digital site and news team focused on the intersection of race, sports, politics and culture. NPR profiles “The Undefeated” and its new editor, former Washington Post managing editor Kevin Merida.

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KELLY MCEVERS, HOST:

A new ESPN website goes live tomorrow. It’s called The Undefeated, and it’s dedicated to the intersection of sports, race, culture and politics. The small staff carries big aspirations, and lots of swagger. But as NPR’s David Folkenflik reports, The Undefeated almost lost the game before it started.

DAVID FOLKENFLIK, BYLINE: Kevin Merida works these days in an abandoned suite of radio offices of the Washington Bureau of ESPN’s corporate sibling ABC News. Merida was previously managing editor of The Washington Post, which he announced in October he would be leaving after 22 years.

KEVIN MERIDA: There wasn’t a whole lot to lose, right? I mean, I felt like I had done a lot. And so I had either reported on or supervised, you know, seven presidential campaigns, so this would have been the eighth.

FOLKENFLIK: Merida’s now editor-in-chief of The Undefeated. Some of his newspaper colleagues were incredulous. But Merida, a sports fan, proved open to a very different path.

MERIDA: When I began to think about this and I took the job, it was like my brain’s on fire, you know? I’m thinking of all kinds of things, different ideas and different things to create.

FOLKENFLIK: As one example, Merida points to the threat of a boycott by black football players at the University of Missouri that toppled their campus’ president.

MERIDA: It’s certainly a story that African-Americans in this country know very well. The history of struggle is one of just incredible overcoming of obstacles and people doubting you and thinking you’re not as smart as you are, as special as you are.

FOLKENFLIK: In recent years, ESPN has encouraged a lot of reporting that deviates from pure sports coverage. The Undefeated’s newsroom now includes a former White House reporter for The Washington Post, a former BuzzFeed editor to cover entertainment, a fashion and style writer, too. The death of Prince – yeah, that would be a story for The Undefeated or this…

MERIDA: The discussion around Serena Williams. Amazingly, there’s more discussion about her body, and she’s the greatest tennis player in the history of the world and one of the greatest athletes. She would have an argument to be the greatest athlete in the history of the world.

FOLKENFLIK: Initially, the site’s name could’ve been the Vanquished. The Undefeated had been the brainchild of the fiery former ESPN commentator Jason Whitlock. Whitlock had never managed a newsroom. Staff rebelled. He was ultimately fired last summer.

RAINA KELLEY: I didn’t want to do it.

FOLKENFLIK: Raina Kelley had a job she liked. She was, until recently, senior editor at ESPN The Magazine. As an an African-American journalist, Kelley watched The Undefeated closely, but kept her distance.

KELLEY: Everything was in a black box, so there was no real information about what the future was going to be.

FOLKENFLIK: Kelley is now managing editor at The Undefeated, and when she speaks of her aspirations, she’s unvarnished, thanks in large part to the hiring of Merida.

KELLEY: We get along so well. We thought so similarly about what we wanted the project to be that I knew we were going to be able to do it and kick it’s [expletive].

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “THE UNDEFEATED”)

DEE-1: (Rapping) Black is beautiful. Beauty is black. Our blemishes apparent, but the beauty intact.

FOLKENFLIK: The site has its own anthem by the New Orleans rapper Dee-1.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “THE UNDEFEATED”)

DEE-1: (Rapping) Sports, music, struggle, it’s all in the black experience.

FOLKENFLIK: ESPN’s television shows have a disproportionately large African-American following compared to the population at large. It’s black digital leadership by contrast is disproportionately small, according to the network. Senior executives say ESPN is especially pursuing male African-American readers between 18 and 34 years old.

As Merida and I talk, he glances through a studio window at Aaron Dotson, a new African-American colleague at the outset of his career.

MERIDA: And we have some young people that are really just in the beginning. And to help them develop, you know, I often get emotional about that just, you know, kind of seeing the young people.

FOLKENFLIK: You’re getting emotional right now.

MERIDA: Yeah because whether it’s him or Justin Tinsley or…

FOLKENFLIK: Here, Merida is weeping unabashedly. I ask him why this project means so much to him.

MERIDA: It’s run by journalists of color, you know? And to be able to do that that hasn’t happened a lot – right? – in big places. People really think about that. And hey, you know, I’m just, you know – particularly when you’re looking at people who – they still have so much of their career ahead of them, so you want to, you know, be part of helping them achieve what they want to achieve.

FOLKENFLIK: Merida’s not so secret hope is to land an exit interview with the nation’s first black president, like Merida, an ESPN fan. David Folkenflik, NPR News, Washington, D.C.

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'Lifelike' Suspicious Item At Manchester United Stadium Was A Training Device

A sniffer dog works on the side of the pitch following the evacuation of Old Trafford stadium in Manchester, U.K., on Sunday. The match between Manchester United and Bournemouth was postponed after a suspicious package was discovered at the stadium.

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Before the final match of the season could even get underway Sunday, Manchester United’s fans were leaving the team’s stadium in droves. Local police oversaw the mass evacuation of the soccer team’s Old Trafford stadium, prompted by reports of a suspicious package found in the stands.

Now, Greater Manchester Police say that item — which had been described as an “incredibly realistic-looking explosive device” — was in fact just a training device.

Suspicious item found at Old Trafford today, which required controlled explosion, was a training device https://t.co/55n06zNwU3

— G M Police (@gmpolice) May 15, 2016

“We have since found out that the item was a training device which had accidentally been left by a private company following a training exercise involving explosive search dogs,” announced John O’Hare, assistant chief constable from Greater Manchester Police.

The announcement brings a cheerful — if somewhat curious — conclusion to a day that began with tension and disappointment as fans filtered out of the stadium. Postponement of the match with Bournemouth came just about 20 minutes before kickoff, as players were still warming up on the pitch.

“Police evacuated the stadium, Old Trafford, and brought in sniffer dogs,” NPR’s Lauren Frayer reported for our NewsCast unit earlier Sunday.

Hours passed as the sniffer dogs combed the stadium’s stands and bomb disposal experts sought to safely destroy the package. A bomb squad carried out a controlled explosion at the stadium; shortly afterward, officials released a statement that the exploded device was not viable.

They expanded on that assessment Sunday evening.

“While this item did not turn out to be a viable explosive, on appearance this device was as real as could be, and the decision to evacuate the stadium was the right thing to do, until we could be sure that people were not at risk,” O’Hare explained.

The English Premier League announced the match has been rescheduled for Tuesday night, when Manchester United and Bournemouth players will take the field once more — presumably with better results this time around.

That said, it’s looking likely that Man U fans will still come away disappointed: As The Associated Press reports, “United has to win the match by a 19-goal margin or more to have any hope of finishing in fourth place and above crosstown rival Manchester City for a Champions League spot.”

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The Week In Sports: Olympic Athletes And Doping

NPR’s Scott Simon talks with NPR’s Tom Goldman about doping among Olympic athletes. They also remember a young athlete who died this week.

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SCOTT SIMON, HOST:

And it’s time now for sports but no band this weekend. We’re going to pass over the NBA playoffs and baseball to talk about a couple of urgent issues and to mark a young life lost too soon. NPR sports correspondent Tom Goldman joins us. Tom, thanks for being with us.

TOM GOLDMAN, BYLINE: Hi, Scott, how are you?

SIMON: Fine, thanks. Let’s – let’s begin with doping. Reports this weekend of widespread doping by Russian athletes at the Olympics a couple of years ago in Sochi. What do we know?

GOLDMAN: We know that doping is the gift that keeps giving (laughter). We know that Russian athletes and officials are angrily denying these allegations that were laid out in a New York Times article this week. The Russian doctor, now living in the U.S. who ran the Olympic lab in Sochi, he detailed elaborate doping schemes, including mixing banned drugs with alcohol to help athletes absorb steriods faster. The men got whiskey; the women, vermouth. Urine sample bottles are supposed to be tamperproof, but allegedly they were opened. And urine with drugs was replaced with urine without. Allegedly dozens of athletes were involved, including at least 15 Olympic medal winners.

SIMON: You know – and what do you say to people who say it’s the Russian – it’s the Russian Olympic team? Of course they’re doping. This is a long tradition.

GOLDMAN: Yeah. It is a long tradition, a long history of sport in doping and even recent history. The Russian track and field athletes that are currently banned from international competition because of alleged state-sponsored doping – we’re going to find out soon whether that ban will extend to the Rio Olympics. And certainly the Sochi story doesn’t help their case.

SIMON: What about the Kenyan – the team of Kenyan runners? ‘Cause this was – this was a team – has been team with a lot of charisma and international appeal.

GOLDMAN: Yeah. Kenya’s been a dominant power in distance running for so many years but also it’s estimated about 40 Kenyan athletes have failed drug tests in the last five years. This week, the World Anti-Doping Agency declared Kenya is out of compliance with its anti-doping efforts. Still, yesterday, track and field’s international governing body announced it will not ban Kenya from the Rio Olympics. The IOC has a final say on Kenya’s participation.

SIMON: And, Tom, let me ask you about a young athlete, Donovan Hill, who died in Los Angeles this week at the age of 18 – an important story.

GOLDMAN: Yeah. A young man from southern California, paralyzed from the neck down playing football when he was 13, died this week after he went in for what was supposed to be minor surgery related to his condition. His story was important, Scott, because after his injury, caused by a headfirst tackle, he and his mom sued the youth football organization, Pop Warner, and Donovan’s coaches because the coaches allegedly didn’t teach proper tackling.

And when Donovan and his teammates said they were worried about tackling leading with the head, which is prohibited at all levels of football, the coaches allegedly told the players to stop complaining. The lawsuit was recently settled. Terms weren’t disclosed, but apparently an award was in the millions of dollars. And in fact, Donovan and his mom were going to start getting money just this week, the week he died. And they needed it. They didn’t have an accessible apartment, even an accessible bathroom. His mom would have to carry him.

SIMON: Tom, do you see for parents of youngsters who want to join a team or play a sport a lesson here that we ought to abstract?

GOLDMAN: I think so. Not all coaches, youth coaches, are certified or trained properly. Donovan’s coaches admitted they weren’t. Pop Warner offers training for coaches. But according to ESPN’s “Outside The Lines,” which ran a number of stories about Donovan, the national Pop Warner offices didn’t check whether or not coaches complete any training. Part of this young man’s legacy is for parents and players. Make sure an organization or a team or coaches who promise safety actually deliver on that promise.

SIMON: NPR sports correspondent Tom Goldman, thanks so much.

GOLDMAN: You’re welcome, Scott.

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ESPN Hopes 'Undefeated' Will Elevate Discussions On Race, Sports And Culture

Before the launch of ESPN’s digital site The Undefeated, which will focus on minorities and sport, Editor-in-Chief Kevin Merida explains why the cross section of sports, culture and race is important.

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RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

After some early false starts and a change in management, a long anticipated branch of espn.com will finally launch next week, called The Undefeated. It’s not your average sports site. This one explores the intersection of race, culture and sport. Its editor-in-chief, Kevin Merida, gave us a preview of what it’s all about.

KEVIN MERIDA: Let’s take Cam Newton’s terrific run as the Most Valuable Player in the National Football League.

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JOE BUCK: His great year continues. Second and nine. (Shouting) Newton – end zone – touchdown, Cotchery.

MERIDA: You know, there were lots of discussions about him as a black quarterback – his image, his dancing in the end zone.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: …To just get in the end zone, and then go celebrate with your team.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: He’s arrogant. He’s showing up the opposition.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN #3: There’s a virtue, and it’s called humility.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN #4: A spoiled brat…

MERIDA: But what always accompanied the dance was him going to the end zone and handing the ball to some kid.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

UNIDENTIFIED ANNOUNCER: You see Cam Newton. He wants that ball. He’s going to go give it to one young kid here in the stands.

MERIDA: That’s the other part of that. When you’re at the top of your profession, whatever profession it is, you know, you often, if you’re African-American, sometimes feel the weight of the entire race on your shoulders. And I think that is oftentimes not handled very well. I think that one of the things that The Undefeated can do is really take black athletes and really show the complexity of their lives. You know, we all want to be understood in multiple dimensions.

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MERIDA: We’re at a time in the country where we need more understanding. It’s a very diverse country now. It’s becoming more and more diverse. And we need to find ways to understand each other – to bring more light than heat.

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MERIDA: I think that race has always been a subject that has, you know, both confounded us and pained us. I think we have an opportunity through the realm of sports and culture to really help push the conversation along and to really lead.

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MONTAGNE: That’s Kevin Merida. He’s editor-in-chief of the new ESPN digital publication The Undefeated, which launches next Tuesday.

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Want To Be Wicket Smart? Now There's An App For Cricket's Many Rules

Stuart Broad of Nottinghamshire bowls at Nick Gubbins of Middlesex during a match at Lords Cricket Ground in London.

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The rules of cricket are famously, almost comically, complicated.

Take this subsection of Law 42.6.1 in the International Cricket Council’s rules and regulations on Standard Test Match Playing Conditions:

“In the event of a bowler bowling more than two fast short-pitched deliveries in an over as defined in Clause 42.6.1 (b) above, the umpire at the bowlers end shall call and signal no ball on each occasion. A differential signal shall be used to signify a fast short pitched delivery. The umpire shall call and signal ‘no ball’ and then tap the head with the other hand.”

Helpfully, for those not steeped in the finer points of the game, the Marylebone Cricket Club has released what it calls the “first ever Laws of Cricket app.” The app, which users of iOS and Android devices can download for free, uses videos, quizzes and animations narrated by actor and writer Stephen Fry to explain the mechanics.

MCC says it has maintained custodianship of the laws of cricket since the club’s founding in 1787. Its website states: “Although the International Cricket Council is the global Governing Body for cricket, it still relies on MCC to write and interpret the Laws of Cricket, which are applicable from the village green to the Test arena.”

There are 42 such laws. And on the videos, Fry acknowledges their density with affection:

“Of course, this being cricket, there are further delightful complications … but never fear, all mental anguish will clear with a little quiet meditation and reference to law 29 in the blue book.” That’s during a lesson on when a batsman or woman is out of his ground. The answer is “a bit of a headache,” the narrator cheerfully explains.

The app is meant to bring new fans to the game. “As Guardians of the Laws and Spirit of Cricket, it is vital that MCC embraces the new audiences that the sport has gained in recent years and makes the Laws of the game even more accessible,” the club’s chief executive, Derek Brewer, says in a statement.

The app also features videos of 18 different umpire signals. For example, here’s the sign for “Leg Bye,” meaning the ball has hit the person of the batsman or woman so any runs completed are counted as “leg byes.”

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And here’s how an umpire signals a fielding restriction known as a “Power Play.”

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Still confused? You have plenty of company, including this blogger. This is how one teatowel — apparently a common sight in the U.K. — explains cricket to a foreign visitor, according to ESPN:

“You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that’s in the side that’s in goes out, and when he’s out he comes in and the next man goes in until he’s out. When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side that’s been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

“When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.

“When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!”

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Public Health Professor: Because Of Zika, Rio Olympics 'Must Not Proceed'

The Olympic flame gets a lift from former Brazilian volleyball player Leila Barros, who took part in this month's torch relay. The games are set to begin on Aug. 5.

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Amir Attaran, a professor in the School of Public Health and the School of Law at the University of Ottawa, isn’t afraid to take a bold stand.

He has written a commentary for the Harvard Public Health Review, published this week, with the headline, “Why Public Health Concerns for Global Spread of Zika Virus Means that Rio de Janeiro’s 2016 Olympic Games Must Not Proceed.”

The World Health Organization is soon expected to release a statement with guidance on travel to the Olympics.

NPR’s Robert Siegel spoke to Attaran about his controversial position. Attaran’s comments have been edited for length and clarity.

You are calling for the Summer Games to either be postponed or moved to other countries — London, Beijing, Sydney. Why?

The risk of [accelerating the spread] of Zika is simply too great to bear.

What we know from Brazil’s devastating outbreak is that it began with a single infected person who brought the virus to South America. Does it really make sense to send a half-million [Olympic tourists] into Rio, which is, to be very clear, not the fringes of the outbreak. It’s the heart of the outbreak. Rio de Janeiro state has more Zika cases than anywhere else in the country. Doesn’t make sense.

So are you saying the games should be canceled?

No one is saying cancel the games. But is it at the end of the day sensible to run the risk of a global epidemic of, let’s face it, brain-damaged babies, when that could be avoided by simply postponing the games or moving them elsewhere?

This is not a question of worrying about whether individual athletes get sick or individual tourists. For any of those individuals, the risk is quite low. But when you multiply by 500,000, the odds are extremely high that somebody will take the disease elsewhere and seed a new outbreak.

Wouldn’t it also be logical from your perspective that no one should travel to Rio de Janeiro?

We can’t fall into the trap of being extremist. It would be completely inappropriate, totalitarian even, to say nobody should enter or exit. But do we need to accelerate the entry and exit by a half-million people for [the Olympic] games?

We speak of the Summer Games, but actually in the Southern Hemisphere where they’re taking place, it’ll be winter. And some people say mosquitoes won’t be that much of a problem because it’s not their season.

There’s no doubt that mosquitoes will decline in Rio’s winter, but they’re not going to decline to point that the disease vanishes. Other mosquito-transmitted diseases like dengue fever persist through the winter in Rio, and Zika will too because it’s transmitted by the same mosquito. But here’s the bigger problem: in Rio this year, insect-transmitted disease is up 600 percent over the same period last year. Why did it go up 600 percent when there are mosquito control efforts? That proves the efforts aren’t working as well as one would have liked. And even if the mosquito-borne diseases do go down over winter, they’re coming down from a level that’s six times higher than normal.

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Stephen Curry Is NBA's 1st Unanimous MVP

Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry reacts after scoring in the second half of the Warriors' Game 4 win over the Portland Trail Blazers on Monday night.

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Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry, who leads the league in scoring, steals and the seemingly impossible shots that he has made a habit of sinking from well beyond the 3-point line, has been named the NBA’s Most Valuable Player for the second year in a row.

It’s the first time a player has been unanimously chosen for the award.

All 130 sportswriters and broadcasters who were allocated an MVP vote, along with one fan who voted, marked Curry in first place. Kawhi Leonard of the San Antonio Spurs came in second, LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers in third, and Oklahoma City Thunder teammates Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant in fourth and fifth, respectively.

Final NBA MVP voting results:
1) Steph Curry
2) Kawhi Leonard
3) LeBron James
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Kevin Durant pic.twitter.com/fBIJacdEQc

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) May 10, 2016

Not that there were any doubts about Curry’s greatness, but for further proof, look at what he did in Monday night’s Game 4 of the Western Conference semifinals against the Portland Trail Blazers. It was Curry’s first game back since sustaining a knee injury two weeks ago. He came off the bench to score 40 points — 17 of which were in overtime — to lead the Warriors to a 132-125 victory.

Golden State now leads Portland 3-1 in the seven-game series. If (when) the reigning NBA champions advance to the conference finals, they’ll face the winners of the San Antonio-Oklahoma City semifinal series, which is tied at 2-2. In the Eastern Conference finals, Cleveland awaits the winner of the Miami Heat-Toronto Raptors series, which is also tied at two games apiece.

A repeat of last year’s NBA championship featuring the Cavaliers and the Warriors looks likely, and with Curry back on the court, the MVP award might not be the only trophy he hoists two years in a row.

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Why You Might Be Hearing About A Thing Called Turinabol

Turinabol is an oral steroid commonly given to East Germany’s young athletes competing in the 1970s and ’80s, many of whom suffered devastating health consequences later. As ESPN’s T.J. Quinn explains, drug is making a come back in Major League Baseball.

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MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Now it’s time for Words You’ll Hear. That’s where we try to understand stories we’ll be hearing more about by parsing some of the words associated with them. Today, our word is Turinabol. That’s an oral steroid. You might remember hearing about it after the end of the Cold War, after it became known that it was commonly given to East Germany’s young athletes who were competing in the 1970s and the 1980s. Many of them suffered devastating health consequences later.

It turns out it’s making a comeback in major league baseball. Three players have been suspended in recent weeks for taking the drug. We wondered what’s behind this and if there’s more to come, so we’ve called ESPN’s T.J. Quinn, and he’s with us from New York. T.J., thanks so much for joining us.

T.J. QUINN: My pleasure.

MARTIN: Could you start by telling us a little bit more about Turinabol? How does it work? Why would you take it?

QUINN: You take it because it does everything you want an anabolic steroid to do – you get bigger and stronger and faster. It became popular in part because it didn’t have some of the awful side effects that other drugs did when they were – everybody was experimenting on themselves and their athletes in the ‘70s.

MARTIN: You raised two questions that I wanted to ask you about. One is – first of all, I remember the stories when the extent of the East German doping system became known. And the stories about the kinds of health consequences that appeared later are still very disturbing. I mean, you’re talking about kidney failure, chronic joint pain, sterility, impotence, not to mention for women particularly, changes in their physical appearance which are irreversible. So in East Germany, it is understood generally that these kids were forced to take them. Why would anybody still take this, and why would you take it knowing that it’s easily detected?

QUINN: There seems to be this everlasting strain of thought that somehow, it’ll be different for me. And usually, when you’ve got someone who’s taking a drug like that someone is suggesting that they take it. There’s usually somebody in their ear explaining to them why they won’t get caught right up until the time that they are.

MARTIN: The suspended athletes say that they did not know that this is what they were taking. Is it possible that this is a substance that could appear in a legal product without your knowing about it?

QUINN: It’s hard to say. I mean, they make a very strong case, but then so have a lot of athletes who turned out to have cheated. You’ve got three major league baseball players and one UFC fighter, and they’ve all gotten together and said that they are going to compare everything that they’ve done for the last few months of their lives to try to explain why they’ve tested positive for this drug. There is one product on the market that is known to have traces of it and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency put it on their high risk list, but all these athletes say they didn’t take that drug.

MARTIN: What do you make of this, if you don’t mind my asking? I mean, you’ve been following this closely. You cover this. You’re an investigative reporter. What do you make of this?

QUINN: No, it’s funny. You first hear the denials and you think, right, it’s – you know, everybody’s got the same denial. I don’t know how it got in my body. There are a few things that make this case a little different. One is why this drug when there are so many other, better drugs you could take? One thing that really stood out was the fact that two of those players tested positive during spring training, and that’s the one time they know they’re going to be tested.

Baseball looks at that and says well, that’s because they took the drug long before spring training thinking it would clear their systems and didn’t realize that improved testing was going to catch them. The players say to them, that’s proof that they didn’t mean to do it because who would be stupid enough to take something and then test positive in spring training?

MARTIN: T.J. Quinn is an investigative reporter at ESPN, and he was with us from New York. T.J., thank you so much for speaking with us.

QUINN: Any time.

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Episode 700: Peanuts and Cracker Jack

Jose Magrass, hot dog selling machine.

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There’s not a lot of running in baseball. Mostly the players just stand around. But up in the stands, there is a very different game being played—one that demands hours of nonstop effort. The players in this game are vendors, the ballpark workers who run up and down stairs, carrying cases of water and bins of hot dogs above their heads. They are competing to sell as much overpriced junk food, in as little time as possible.

In Boston’s Fenway Park the top seller is Jose Magrass. He is a legend. On opening day this year, he sold 500 hot dogs—$2750 worth. But slinging that many dogs in one night takes skill, shrewdness, and strategy.

On today’s show: The secret world of ballpark vendors. It’s a game of weather forecasting, ruthless efficiency, sore thighs, and swollen vocal chords.

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Ahead Of Derby Day, Kentucky Residents Gather Early To Beat Tourists

For generations, the day before the Kentucky Derby was unofficially considered “Louisville’s Day at the Races,” when locals could enjoy Churchill Downs without the huge Derby crowds, high admission prices and general madness. But over the past few years, “Oaks Day” has become popular among out-of-towners who come in early and make a whole weekend of it. Now, locals gather on the Thursday before the Derby.

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