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Lawmakers Warn Senate Health Care Bill Could Worsen Opioid Crisis

Some senators are concerned about how the Senate Republicans health care bill would affect treatment for opioid addiction.

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As we’ve heard, one of the issues causing concern among some Republican senators is what the health care bill would mean for states dealing with problems related to opioid addiction. The Senate bill has funding in it to help, but it may not be nearly enough to counteract the cuts the bill makes to Medicaid. NPR White House correspondent Tamara Keith reports.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE: In late May, several senators went to the floor of the Senate to talk about people in their districts affected by the opioid crisis. West Virginia Republican Shelley Moore Capito talked about Shelley Carter (ph).

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SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO: She told me her drug habit began when she was 12 years old.

KEITH: Capito’s state has the unfortunate distinction of having the highest per capita death rate from opioids. Thirty-six per 100,000 people died from overdoses on heroin, fentanyl and other opioids in 2015. But Chelsea Carter is one of the lucky ones.

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CAPITO: Her story, Chelsea’s story, is an example of the progress that can be made by fully committing to fighting the drug epidemic and that there are victories and that there are programs that work.

KEITH: Carter has been in long-term recovery since 2008.

CHELSEA CARTER: I’ve came a long way from where I was nine years ago, sitting in a jail cell.

KEITH: She went from facing jail time to treatment, grad school, and is now the program director at Appalachian Health Services. She estimates about 90 percent of the people that come into her clinic for treatment for substance use disorders are on Medicaid, the federal program for the poor that West Virginia chose to expand under the Affordable Care Act. The Senate bill would phase out that expansion, and so Carter’s watching the debate closely.

CARTER: We are losing people daily to this. I’m treating generations of drug abuse. And with the people dying of opiate drug overdoses every day, I just don’t see how we could cut funding from something that’s saving lives.

KEITH: Yesterday, Senator Capito announced she opposes the health care bill in its current form. She cited cuts to Medicaid and concerns about what the bill would mean for people dealing with opioid addiction. There’s a pretty direct correlation between states with high overdose death rates and Republican senators expressing reservations about the bill.

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DEAN HELLER: It doesn’t protect Nevadans on Medicaid and the most vulnerable Nevadans.

KEITH: Senator Dean Heller from Nevada came out early against it.

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HELLER: On Medicaid expansion, probably half – half of the dollars that were spent on that was on mental health and opioid abuse.

KEITH: Heller and others could still change their minds or be persuaded by changes to the bill. And one lever Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell could employ is increasing funding in the bill for grants to help states respond to the opioid crisis. Currently the bill would give states $2 billion to deal with opioids in 2018. Senator Rob Portman from Ohio, who also opposes the bill in its current form, is pushing for that fund to go up to $45 billion over the next decade. But even 45 billion wouldn’t be enough, says Harvard health economist Richard Frank, who previously served in the Obama administration.

RICHARD FRANK: It is one part of trying to compensate from taking people’s insurance away, but it doesn’t cover nearly what the needs are from these populations.

KEITH: Things like treatment for hepatitis C, HIV, car accidents, emergency room visits, lifesaving rescue drugs.

FRANK: My estimate is that we’re talking 180 billion over 10 years, not 45 billion.

KEITH: The Congressional Budget Office estimates that in 2026, there would be 15 million fewer people covered by Medicaid than under current law. The White House and some congressional Republicans cast doubt on the estimates of the CBO. And supporters of the bill argue states would have more flexibility to tailor Medicaid coverage to the needs of their populations. Michael Botticelli, the last drug czar under President Obama, says love it or hate it, Obamacare did allow a lot more people to get treatment. Botticelli now heads the Grayken Center for Addiction Medicine at Boston Medical Center.

MICHAEL BOTTICELLI: You know, we’re in the greatest health crisis that we’ve had since the height of the AIDS epidemic. And we’ve seen the dramatic gains that we’ve been able to make and that people are able to make with Medicaid coverage.

KEITH: Botticelli finds it hard to believe senators he worked with to help combat the opioid epidemic would consider voting for this bill. And at this moment, it’s still an open question as to whether they will. Tamara Keith, NPR News.

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Q&A: What Does The Senate Health Bill Mean For Me?

The ongoing debate over health care has many people wondering how changes will affect their coverage.

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Since Senate Republicans released the draft of their bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act last week, many people have been wondering how the proposed changes will affect their own coverage, and their family’s: Will my pre-existing condition be covered? Will my premiums go up or down?

The bill is still a work in progress, but we’ve taken a sampling of questions from All Things Considered listeners and answered them, based on what we know now.


Q: My husband and I are both in our 50s, self-employed, and we have a daughter in college. We buy insurance through the California exchange. Our family premium is now $1,100 a month with a deductible of $6,800 per person. We have never received a subsidy.

Three months ago, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. It was early stage, and I am in treatment with no cancer remaining. We are all very active and healthy otherwise.

Here is my concern: Based on what I have read, it appears our age group stands to see the biggest jump in premium costs. Not to mention, I now have a pre-existing condition. Will our premiums rise astronomically?

— Denise Estrada, Los Angeles, Calif.

A: This is a double-barreled question on premium costs and pre-existing conditions, both major concerns to consumers.

For a person in their 50s, worries about premium increases are well-founded. Under the Affordable Care Act, insurance companies are allowed to charge older people up to three times more than young people for the same insurance policies.

The Republican health care bills in both the Senate and House would allow insurers to charge up to five times more.

That change would likely lead to cheaper health plans for younger people, but also more expensive ones for those over 50. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that a 60-year-old in Los Angeles County who doesn’t qualify for subsidies would see her premium rise about $2,600 a year.

As for your question about your pre-existing condition, the answer would depend on where you live. The Senate bill does preserve the pre-existing condition protections that exist under the Affordable Care Act — meaning insurance companies must offer you a policy even if you have a medical problem. But it would also allow states to ask for waivers from some federal regulations, including those that define “essential health benefits.” If a state doesn’t include cancer treatment or pharmaceutical coverage in those benefits, then insurance companies can elect not to pay for some of the care you need.

Q: My 2 1/2-year-old son has been through eight hospitalizations and is fed partly through a feeding tube. We have insurance through my husband’s employer, and our son qualified for Medicaid last November because of a program in Pennsylvania for children with chronic illnesses.

The medical bills we’ve already seen would have been catastrophic without insurance, and our out-of-pocket medical expenses were thousands of dollars a year, even with insurance, before he qualified for Medicaid. His medical care needs have been so intense that I have not been able to work this past year.

We are very worried about his future care costs without Medicaid, as well as our ability to afford insurance coverage for him if pre-existing conditions are not afforded any legal protections.

How is Trumpcare likely to affect our family?

— Emily Kane, Pittsburgh, Pa.

A: It sounds like Pennsylvania’s Medicaid program has been helpful for your child. Under the proposed law, states will have even more power to design their own Medicaid programs, so there’s no reason to think that Pennsylvania would take away a local program that it has implemented.

What might be worrisome, however, are the overall reductions to the Medicaid program. The bill turns Medicaid from an open-ended program that pays for all the care beneficiaries need, to one that caps federal spending based on the number of people enrolled. The Congressional Budget Office predicts that if the Senate bill passes, Medicaid spending would be 26 percent lower, over the next decade, than it would be under the Affordable Care Act.

Some analysts believe that over time, states will have to cut services, reduce how much they pay doctors and hospitals and make it harder to qualify for Medicaid.

Q: My wife and I are both 42, and we have two children, ages 10 and 13. We have coverage through the marketplace but do not qualify for payment assistance. In addition, my wife has rheumatoid arthritis and currently uses expensive monthly injections to treat it. Would insurance still be required to cover my wife’s arthritis treatment under the new law? And how would our premiums be affected?

— Jeremy Merrill, Cedar Park, Texas

A: As far as premiums go, it looks like yours are likely to remain about the same. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that for a 40-year-old in Williamson County, Texas, who doesn’t qualify for subsidies, premiums are flat under the new law.

Whether your insurance will cover your wife’s condition depends largely on your governor. As I explained above, states can ask for waivers from many of the Affordable Care Act’s consumer protections, including those that define what medical services insurers have to cover.

Q: My 16-year-old daughter has Crohn’s disease. She requires Remicade infusions every six weeks. Each infusion costs $20,000. I am very concerned about lifetime maximums being reinstated. Additionally, I worry that children will no longer be able to stay on their parents’ insurance policies until 26, and that pre-existing conditions will result in higher premiums, even for employer-sponsored plans.

— Amy Lowe, Dayton, Ohio

A: You only have to worry about one of those things.

The Senate bill does include the very popular provision in the Affordable Care Act that allows children to stay on their parents’ health insurance policy until they are 26.

However, there is a chance that lifetime spending limits and annual limits [to what an insurer would pay for the care of a given patient] could return. Before the Affordable Care Act, about 60 percent of employers had lifetime limits on their health plans. The section of the bill that allows states to get waivers from federal rules opens the door to those limits making a comeback — even in employer-sponsored policies.

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GOP Sen. Susan Collins Plans To Oppose Senate Health Bill After CBO Report

The Congressional Budget Office said Monday 22 million more people would be uninsured over the next decade under the Senate health care bill. Maine Sen. Collins later said she would oppose the bill.

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The Supreme Court’s announcement that it would take up the travel ban is one thing that makes this a big week for President Trump – another, Senate Republicans’ effort to pass a replacement to the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, by July Fourth. NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson joins us from the White House to talk about that. Hi, Mara.

MARA LIASSON, BYLINE: Hi, Ari.

SHAPIRO: Let’s start with the score that just came out this afternoon from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office which says 22 million more people would be uninsured over the next decade under the Senate legislation. Tell us more about what the CBO says.

LIASSON: The CBO says that that amount will lose coverage over the next decade. That’s almost identical to their scoring of the House bill. They also talk about how premiums will go up for lower-income, older, poorer Americans. And the White House immediately issued a statement attacking the CBO, saying it’s proven that in the past that it’s incapable of predicting insurance coverage. But this is a blow to the bill, and the president promised several times that under his watch, health care would get cheaper, better, and there would be no Medicaid cuts. And so far, the Senate bill does not live up to those criteria.

SHAPIRO: And just in the hours since the CBO score came out, we’ve already seen reactions from some senators who might have been on the fence before. Tell us what’s happening here.

LIASSON: That’s right. We know that Susan Collins is the first Republican senator to come out and say definitively she is a no vote. She says she will vote no on the motion to proceed, which is the procedural rule that allows the bill to go to the floor. She’s a moderate senator from Maine. It’s a rural state, and as she said in some tweets, it has a lot of vulnerable Americans. And a lot of Mainers are on Medicaid. I think she said something like 1 in 5 residents of Maine are on Medicaid, and she’s worried about those deep cuts.

There’s a pool of other senators who have expressed reservations – Dean Heller of Nevada, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Mike Lee of Utah. Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, can only afford to lose two senators to pass this bill. And so he’s already lost one with Susan Collins, and we’re really watching those other senators.

SHAPIRO: So walk us through the political strategy here. Mitch McConnell has said it is so important to him to have a vote this week before the July Fourth recess, but if the votes aren’t there, could there be reason for him to postpone a vote, let people go home and come back when they’ve had more time to think about it?

LIASSON: They could, but part of his strategy was to not do that because if they go home, they’re going to face a lot of angry constituents the way they did in the previous breaks. And he doesn’t want that to happen because it might be even harder for him to get the votes when they come back.

One of the things that he’s telling them is, look; every Republican has promised for seven years to repeal Obamacare. This is it. This is the only bill that you’re going to get a chance to vote for that does that. If you don’t do that, you are going to anger the base of the Republican Party, and it will be impossible for us to proceed with anything else, any other priorities for Republicans like tax reform.

He’s also going to tell them that Medicaid is going to be transformed. That is a – would be a generational achievement for conservatives. This is something they’ve wanted to do for a very long time – is, you know, shrink entitlements. And he’s going to try to sell it to them. He also has a pot of money to bargain with. He might tell Susan Collins he’ll put more money in for opioid abuse or rural health care. Mitch McConnell is legendary for being somebody who can get the votes, keep his Republicans together. This is a big challenge for him, but most people think he has a few more cards up his sleeve.

SHAPIRO: You talked about Susan Collins. Tell us about Dean Heller of Nevada, who’s another interesting player in this debate.

LIASSON: Yeah, Dean Heller is a really interesting player because he’s the only Republican from a state that Clinton won who’s up for re-election in 2018. He came out on Friday at a press conference with the governor of his state saying – he practically said he was a no. And a pro-Trump super PAC has threatened to run a million-dollar ad buy against Heller in his own state. He’s already facing a tremendous amount of social media and advertising from people who want him to vote to save Obamacare. So he’s really being hit from the right and the left. We also hear he might want to run for governor in 2018, and maybe he’s not so concerned about the pushback from his fellow Senate Republicans.

SHAPIRO: NPR’s Mara Liasson, thank you.

LIASSON: Thank you.

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Where Does The Federal Budget Deficit Fit Into The Health Care Equation?

NPR’s Michel Martin speaks with Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget President Maya MacGuineas about how to balance the need for health care with the need to reduce the federal budget deficit.

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We’re going to turn back to the health care bill presented by Senate Republicans last week. They say the plan will cut costs and stabilize insurance markets. Yesterday, we heard from Lynn Cooper of Pennsylvania’s Rehabilitation and Community Providers Association, which represents facilities that treat substance abuse. She was particularly concerned about the proposed caps on Medicaid, the national program that pays for health care for people with low incomes. She said it would be devastating at a time when the nation is struggling to contain a crisis of opioid abuse.

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LYNN COOPER: The loss of Medicaid expansion will be like the bottom dropping out for thousands of Pennsylvania citizens and their families.

MARTIN: Today, we wanted to get perspective from a different vantage point from someone who’s primarily concerned about the size of the federal budget and the federal deficit. Maya MacGuineas is president of the committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. It says it’s a nonpartisan organization focused on fiscal responsibility in government. She also chairs a group called The Campaign to Fix the Debt. And she’s with us now. Maya, thanks so much for joining us.

MAYA MACGUINEAS: Thanks for having me.

MARTIN: So let’s talk about why you and others who share your perspective believe that restraining the cost of entitlement programs, of which Medicaid is one, is so important. Why does that matter?

MACGUINEAS: So right now, we have a federal debt that’s the highest it’s ever been since World War II. That affects our economy. It affects wages. It lowers our standard of living. So we need to get control of the national debt. The fastest drivers of the debt come from the aging of the population and growing health care costs. So focusing on cost control of health care and our Medicare and Medicaid programs will give us more freedom in the budget so that we’re not borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

MARTIN: As I mentioned earlier, yesterday, we spoke with a woman who represents Pennsylvania’s drug rehabilitation programs. And she was telling us in fairly graphic terms how, you know, capping Medicaid in her view could harm tens of thousands of people in her state alone. And this at a time when the opioid problem is being called a national crisis. So how do you make the argument that their needs right now are less important, if I could use that term, than the long-term need to control costs?

MACGUINEAS: So I wouldn’t make the argument that any particular group or person’s needs are less important. I would make the argument that we need to look at a budget as what budgets are actually supposed to be, which is trade-offs. So what we need to do is figure out what our national priorities are. And then we need to figure out how we’re going to pay for it. I would argue that the most important thing is that we ensure everybody is able to afford a reasonable amount of health care.

Now, people will disagree on what reasonable amount is, and that’s a big part of where the fight is. But we want to make sure that the subsidies are flowing to people who we should be subsidizing. And there’s different questions. Do we have the young subsidize the old, the healthy subsidize the sick, the rich subsidize the poor? There is no one right answer, but you have to make some choices. And budgets push us to make choices.

MARTIN: Does this argument become more difficult, speaking of trade-offs, when it appears that the agenda of this administration – and frankly, congressional Republicans at the moment – is to use these costs savings to provide tax cuts which disproportionately benefit the wealthy?

MACGUINEAS: Well, it makes it more difficult for those of us who care about reducing the deficit because if I were structuring something like this, I would keep that revenue because we need it. And I would worry about, how are you going to make sure that people who need health care get it as efficiently as possible? How do you control the cost of health care? And how do you help use these savings to bring our debt down before we go forward with cutting taxes?

Which it seems like at a time of record debt levels, tax cuts don’t make a lot of sense. And that does include making reforms to entitlements and thinking about things in Medicare and Medicaid. People never like those changes, but you actually can’t get control of these programs if they go uncapped with no control.

MARTIN: Maya MacGuineas is president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget and The Campaign to Fix the Debt. Maya, thank you so much for speaking with us once again.

MACGUINEAS: Thanks so much for having me.

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What Medicaid Cuts Could Mean For The Opioid Epidemic

NPR’s Michel Martin speaks with Lynn Cooper, director of the Drug and Alcohol Division at Pennsylvania’s Rehabilitation and Community Providers Association, about the Senate GOP healthcare bill.

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We wanted to take a closer look at one particular issue with the Senate’s new health care bill that has been raised by a number of skeptics and critics including President Obama in a Facebook post on Thursday. That’s the question of how the Senate GOP bill will affect efforts to combat a growing public health crisis – opioid addiction.

According to an estimate from The New York Times, drug overdoses are now the leading cause of death for Americans under 50. The Senate bill proposes $2 billion for treatment and recovery services through 2018 to offset cuts to Medicaid funding at the state level. Democrats and even some Republican lawmakers say that’s tens of billions of dollars too little to adequately address this crisis.

To hear more about this, we called Lynn Cooper. She is director of the drug and alcohol division at Pennsylvania’s Rehabilitation and Community Providers Association that oversees some 170 substance abuse related health care facilities around the state of Pennsylvania. And she’s with us now from her home in Pittsburgh. Lynn Cooper, thank you so much for speaking with us.

LYNN COOPER: Thank you. It is indeed my pleasure.

MARTIN: So I call this a crisis. Is it a crisis?

COOPER: I think it’s way past crisis. It goes beyond just a drug epidemic. It is a death epidemic all over the country. The loss of Medicaid expansion will be like the bottom dropping out for thousands of Pennsylvania citizens and their families.

MARTIN: So let’s – walk me through this. So how many people would you say are getting treatment in your network now? And have you seen a big increase in recent years? Can you just give us some numbers to help us see the scope of the thing?

COOPER: Absolutely. According to the Pennsylvania Department of Human Services, we’re talking an additional 855,000 citizens have been newly enrolled in medical assistance. And at least 100,000 of those are folks struggling with substance use disorder.

MARTIN: You said that about 850,000 people have been newly enrolled. Is that because of the Affordable Care Act?

COOPER: Oh, absolutely. That’s the Affordable Care Act. That’s because of Medicaid expansion.

MARTIN: I think you were telling us earlier that Medicaid overwhelmingly pays for. That…

COOPER: Yes.

MARTIN: …Is the major source of funding for substance abuse treatment in Pennsylvania. Why is that?

COOPER: Basically, in the state of Pennsylvania right now, we have Health Choices, which is a managed care of Medicaid. And it has been extremely effective in our state. But the problem we had before Medicaid expansion is that many people were not eligible despite the fact that they were very poor and unemployed.

Before Medicaid expansion, our counties were running out of money. Now, today, this Medicaid expansion has absolutely stopped that. And a lot of the people that the county funds were paying for are now being covered by Medicaid expansion. But I got to be honest with you. Even with Medicaid expansion, we still have people that are not able to access treatment due to the lack of funding.

And when we heard talk in Washington about adding $2 billion to this problem, I can tell you right now, $2 billion wouldn’t even be enough for the state of Pennsylvania. Eighty-five to 90 percent of all of the clients that we serve are Medicaid or program funded. And this would be devastating to our treatment programs.

MARTIN: So if the Senate bill passes in its current form, it would cap Medicaid. And that would require the states to make choices about who gets the funding. What is your worst case scenario?

COOPER: Worst case scenario. The state of Pennsylvania already has a $3 billion deficit. And if we do end up having to choose between programs, if our leaders are forced to do that, it’s unfortunate. But very often, drug and alcohol ends up the last on the totem pole. When you’re competing for funding, it’s hard. I mean, someone who needs kidney dialysis or someone who is severely intellectually disabled and then you have the drug addict.

The stigma that exists for drug addiction right now remains terrible. People have a hard time understanding that there’s a ripple effect. And part of it is an emotional and family effect. And the other part is a financial and a fiscal effect because we’re going to be increasing costs in children and youth.

Eighty percent of children that are removed from their home are removed due to a substance use disorder. Now we have displaced children that need foster care. We’re going to be increasing costs in jails and prisons. Our jails right now across the country are full of people who need drug and alcohol treatment. The opioid crisis affects everybody of all walks in life.

MARTIN: That’s Lynn Cooper. She’s director of the drug and alcohol division at Pennsylvania’s Rehabilitation and Community Providers Association. She was kind enough to join us from her home office in Pittsburgh. Lynn Cooper, thank you so much for speaking with us.

COOPER: Thank you very much.

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President Trump Praises Senate Republican Health Care Bill

President Trump is praising the Senate’s health care bill. But the bill lacks a mechanism requiring people to have continuous coverage, which could create problems in the individual health care market.

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President Trump says he’s very supportive of the Senate’s new bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare. But the president admits tinkering with the nation’s health care system is complicated. Senate Republican leaders unveiled the legislation yesterday. They want it to pass next week. They have little margin for error, as NPR’s Scott Horsley reports.

SCOTT HORSLEY, BYLINE: Senate Republicans can only afford to lose two votes if they hope to pass their bill. And five Republicans are already on record in opposition to the measure in its current form. After the first four Republicans raised concerns, President Trump told “Fox & Friends” there’s a narrow path to success.

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I think we’re going to get there and we have four very good people that – it’s not that they’re opposed. They’d like to get certain changes. And we’ll see if we can take care of that.

HORSLEY: One of the holdouts is Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul. He told NBC’s “Today” show, in its current form, the Senate bill could aggravate the problem of healthy people going without insurance and driving up costs for everyone else.

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RAND PAUL: If you can get insurance after you get sick, you will. And without the individual mandate, that sort of adverse selection, the death spiral, the elevated premiums – all of that that’s going on gets worse under this bill.

HORSLEY: Obamacare addressed that problem by requiring Americans to have health insurance or pay a penalty. But the so-called individual mandate is one of the least popular provisions of the law. And Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and his colleagues are determined to get rid of it.

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MITCH MCCONNELL: We agreed on the need to free Americans from Obamacare’s mandates so Americans are no longer forced to buy insurance they don’t need or can’t afford.

HORSLEY: But the Senate bill preserves another, more popular piece of Obamacare, the requirement that insurance companies cover everyone, even those with pre-existing conditions. Health policy expert Linda Blumberg of the Urban Institute says imposing a coverage requirement on insurance companies without a corresponding mandate for customers creates a very shaky insurance market.

LINDA BLUMBERG: What you don’t want to have is a situation where you’re saying, we’re going to have everybody, regardless of their health problems, come in and then have all of the healthy people exit the market because then the average cost of those who remain goes up really high.

HORSLEY: As premium costs go up, even more healthy people drop out. That’s the so-called death spiral. The House version of the health care bill tried to discourage healthy people from fleeing the market by allowing insurance companies to charge more for those who don’t maintain continuous coverage. Former GOP Senate staffer Rodney Whitlock thinks the Senate bill will have to add something similar.

RODNEY WHITLOCK: I believe that the bill that the Senate will vote on, assuming they get to that point, will have some sort of mechanism to cause participation in it.

HORSLEY: So why isn’t that already in the bill? Whitlock says McConnell may be worried that it runs afoul of procedural rules that allow Republicans to pass the health care bill with a simple majority vote.

WHITLOCK: If you are concerned that that might be the case, then, strategically, you may want to wait until the very last second to be presenting the language to the parliamentarian.

HORSLEY: Blumberg warns without a strong provision to keep healthy customers in the marketplace, insurance companies will be tempted to offer more stripped-down policies. And that could leave the individual market in worse shape than before Obamacare.

BLUMBERG: What will be available are policies that don’t cover a number of benefits that people are used to getting coverage for today. They will have much higher deductibles than they’re used to seeing. And I think, as you get older, the coverage will be less and less affordable.

HORSLEY: AARP is already on record against the Senate bill, citing what it calls an age tax, as well as cuts to Medicaid. The senior lobby is promising to hold all senators accountable for their votes. Scott Horsley, NPR News, the White House.

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OB-GYNs Give Women More Say In When They Have Mammograms

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Women in their 40s at average risk for breast cancer should talk to their health care provider about the risks and benefits of mammography before starting regular screening at that age, according to guidelines released Thursday by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

The group had previously recommended annual mammograms starting at age 40. But the advice has changed to better incorporate input from the woman being screened, says physician Christopher Zahn, vice president of practice activities at ACOG. “A patient’s preferences and values need to be an important part” of the decision, he says.

Now the group says providers should offer the test when a woman enters her 40s, and that after a discussion, she may opt to start screening. If she doesn’t, she should start by age 50, ACOG says. Zahn says the guidance intentionally encompasses advice from other major groups.

The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force says women should start regular mammograms at 50, and that women in their 40s should make an individual decision about whether or not to screen. The American Cancer Society says screening should be offered starting at age 40, and outright recommends starting at 45. And the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, an alliance of major cancer centers, recommends starting at 40.

The question all these groups have wrestled with is how to balance the benefits and harms of mammography; their different recommendations reflect differences in how they interpreted and weighed the available data. “All three [schedules] are reasonable approaches to take,” says Zahn.

Mammography clearly saves lives for women over 50 and likely does so overall for women in their 40s, says Otis Brawley, chief medical officer at the American Cancer Society. But the benefits in those younger women are smaller, and they come at the cost of false alarms, unnecessary biopsies and overdiagnosis, when cancer that is detected and treated never would have threatened a woman’s health had it gone undiscovered. (The ACS says estimates of overdiagnosis vary widely, from 0 percent to 54 percent of breast cancers, in part depending on whether cases of ductal carcinoma in situ — abnormal cells that sometimes turn into cancer — are included.)

Once a woman starts mammography, she can be screened every one or two years, again after a discussion about the pros and cons of the different schedules, ACOG advises. The American Cancer Society recommends annual screening for women through age 54 and every other year for older women, with the option to continue annual tests, while USPSTF says every other year is sufficient and the network of cancer centers recommends annual screening.

A statistical model from the USPSTF finds that if 1,000 women are screened every other year from age 40 to 74, there will be eight fewer breast cancer deaths compared with no screening, 213 unnecessary breast biopsies and 21 overdiagnosed breast tumors. Meantime, if 1,000 women are screened every other year from 50 to 74, there will be seven fewer breast cancer deaths compared with no screening, 146 unnecessary biopsies and 19 overdiagnosed tumors.

Some women may decide that the small additional benefit doesn’t outweigh the increased risk of biopsy or possibly being treated for a cancer that didn’t need attention. There’s as yet no sure way to know which tumors are harmless and can be left alone. Others may choose differently. “There’s more of a respect for the individual person,” says Brawley about the new ACOG guidelines and the 2015 changes by his own organization. “You’re starting to hear, ‘Let the woman decide.’ “

“If a woman is told to get a mammogram starting at 40, it’s very reasonable to question that and ask, ‘Why? I’ve read that there are conflicting guidelines,’ ” says Deanna Attai, assistant clinical professor of surgery at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA.

She says women should know, or ask about, the risk factors for breast cancer so they can have the screening conversation with some understanding of where they fall on the spectrum. And don’t stop the risk-reduction discussion at screening. “Ask what lifestyle or health habits can help reduce risk,” she says. (For example, research suggests exercise can cut breast cancer risk.)

On the question of when to stop routine mammograms, ACOG says screening beyond age 75 should be based on a conversation about a woman’s health status and longevity. The group also recommends against regular breast self-exams but says women should be aware of the normal feel and appearance of their breasts so they can report any changes.

Keep in mind that these recommendations are for average-risk women who are not experiencing symptoms. Many factors can increase risk, including a family history of breast or ovarian cancer and certain genetic mutations. So those women should check with their physician about when, how and how frequently they should be screened. There’s also not enough evidence to make recommendations on whether women with dense breasts should be screened differently.


Katherine Hobson is a freelance health and science writer based in Brooklyn, N.Y. She’s on Twitter: @katherinehobson

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CEOs Say They'll Sell Health Insurance Next Year, But Are Flying Blind

Mario Schlosser, CEO of the startup Oscar Health, says he’s optimistic that Congress will come up with a humane health care bill.

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The Senate vote on a bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act is, according to conventional wisdom, one week away.

And we still don’t know what’s in the bill.

Not having concrete information is deeply uncomfortable for a journalist like me.

But for lots of people, like those who work in the insurance industry, not knowing what’s in that bill is a bigger deal. Wednesday is a deadline of sorts for these companies. If they want to sell policies next year in states that use the federal health exchange on Healthcare.gov, they have to let Health and Human Services know their intentions.

How are they dealing?

I reached out to a couple of insurance executives and asked.

Mario Schlosser is CEO of Oscar, the insurance startup that’s betting hard on the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

Wednesday morning, Oscar announced it’s going to keep selling individual insurance in New York in 2018, and expanding its offerings in five states – New Jersey, Ohio, California, Florida and Tennessee.

It’s a bold move, considering Congress is right now considering dismantling the Affordable Care Act markets and changing the rules governing health insurance.

“When the dust settles, the individual market will be stable, and we want to be part of getting it there,” Schlosser told me.

He agreed with President Trump that the American Health Care Act, passed by the House in May, is “mean.”

“I think that bill was mean and I think that bill would lead to loss of coverage that would be bad for pretty much everybody in the system,” he said.

Schlosser said it’s crucial for the Trump administration to stabilize the current system in preparation for any changes. That includes enforcing the individual mandate, which penalizes people who don’t buy insurance, and promising to make cost-sharing payments required under the ACA that reimburse insurers for giving extra discounts to the lowest-income customers.

If they don’t, “it would kill the market overnight.” Schlosser said.

“That would be terrible for society, it would be terrible for the whole health care system, and everybody would be worse off,” he said.

I pointed out to Schlosser that his company has a direct line to the White House. His partner and co-founder is Joshua Kushner, the brother of Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser.

Schlosser avoided talking about that relationship and suggested he didn’t know what Trump will do.

Later, I sat down for a cup of coffee at the National Press Club with Dan Hilferty, who runs Independence Blue Cross in Philadelphia and is chairman of the board of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association. His company sells ACA health plans in the Philadelphia area and southern New Jersey.

“I’m here in DC because of what’s happening in health care,” he said. But acknowledged he doesn’t know what’s in the Senate bill, even though the Blue plans he represents as chairman of the association insure one-third of all Americans.

Hilferty said the ACA has problems, but it did manage to bring insurance coverage to about 20 million people who didn’t have it before. That’s what he’s focused on in meetings with members of Congress.

The Congressional Budget Office says the bill passed by the House would result in 23 million fewer people having insurance coverage in 10 years, compared to current law.

“So I would say let’s build a system that doesn’t that doesn’t push those 20 million people back to uninsured, “Hilferty said.

He says his company is focused on ensuring that whatever lawmakers do, they don’t make it harder for low-income people to get insurance.

“Frankly, we don’t care if it’s the ACA or the AHCA as long as it gives us the ability to cover more people, get them access to care and not lose money,” Hilferty said.

Like Schlosser, Hilferty is worried about what’s going to happen next year. His company has filed to sell ACA plans in the Philadelphia area. But if the Trump administration doesn’t commit to making cost-sharing payments or to enforcing the individual mandate that requires people to have insurance, his rates could go up a lot.

Either way, both companies are operating as if the ACA markets will be alive and functioning in 2018.

“I do think that in the end, reason and compassion will prevail in DC,” Schlosser said.

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Here's What We Know About The Senate GOP Health Care Bill

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-K.Y., seen speaking to reporters on Tuesday, is set to release a draft of the Senate’s version of the Republican health care bill on Thursday.

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says Republicans will release a discussion draft of their version of the health care bill on Thursday, with a vote likely next week.

Private health care talks have been underway in the Senate for weeks. McConnell tapped a 13-member working group last month to hash out senators’ differences over the House-passed American Health Care Act. McConnell’s office has since taken the lead drafting the Senate version of the party’s long-promised legislation to dismantle the Affordable Care Act.

Senate Republicans have been coy — or simply out of the loop — on the specifics in the Senate plan, but here is what we know about what might be in the bill and where it could be headed:

It Sounds A Lot Like The House Bill

After the House passed AHCA in early May, leading senators asserted that the Senate would go their own way. “We’re writing a Senate bill and not passing the House bill,” Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said then. “We’ll take whatever good ideas we find there that meet our goals.”

In the end, those goals appear to be aligned.

The structure of the Senate bill, as described by GOP senators and aides, appears fundamentally the same as the House-passed plan.

The Senate bill is also expected to repeal the individual mandate and all or most of the ACA’s taxes, phase out the Medicaid expansion as well as change how the Medicaid program is funded, establish a system of tax credits to help people buy insurance if they choose, and make it easier for states to opt-out of the ACA’s mandates for preexisting conditions and minimum insurance coverage mandates.

There will be changes. For instance, the Senate version is expected to include more generous tax credits to make sure older, poorer Americans don’t get hit with higher costs. Republicans are also battling over how best to remake the Medicaid program, with key vote senators like Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia sounding skittish about Medicaid reductions.

Other Republicans are excited by the bill. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., has been one of the most vocal advocates for Obamacare repeal. “People didn’t want to have to buy this product. This is a sinking ship, people are ready to jump off,” he said Tuesday. Republicans like Barrasso see the bill as a win for the GOP and for the promises they made on the campaign trail.

“We eliminate the individual mandate. You’ll see more people as free citizens making a decision to not have Obamacare insurance, but certainly have more freedom,” Barrasso said.

The Process Stinks

“Can you say it was done openly? With transparency and accountability? Without backroom deals and struck behind closed doors? Hidden from the people? Hell no you can’t! Have you read the bill? Have you read the reconciliation bill? Have you read the manager’s amendment? Hell no you haven’t!”

That’s not Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in 2017, that was former Minority Leader John Boehner in 2010 before House Democrats passed the Affordable Care Act.

Republicans vilified Democrats seven years ago for negotiating the final details of Obamacare behind closed doors. Today Senate Republicans’ response could be: We learned it from watching you.

The Senate has not held any public hearings on their health care bill (the House did), senators involved in the talks have been tight-lipped on the substance, and the public will only have a few days to see it before it gets a vote.

McConnell brushed off questions about transparency. “They’ll have plenty of time,” he told reporters Tuesday. “We’ve been discussing all the elements of this endlessly for seven years. Everybody pretty well understands it. Everybody will have adequate time to take a look at it.”

That argument rings hollow with some of his fellow Republicans. “We used to complain like hell when the Democrats ran the Affordable Care Act. Now, we’re doing the same thing,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CNN.

“If you’re frustrated in the lack of transparency in this process, I share your frustration,” Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, said in a Facebook video for his constituents. Lee is a part of the 13-member working group, but he said he hasn’t seen the draft bill. “I just haven’t been able to see it yet and as far as I know the overwhelming majority of my colleagues haven’t been able to see it either.”

Failure Is An Option

McConnell has been quietly leading Republicans’ to a vote next week but that doesn’t mean it’s going to pass.

“We’re going to make every effort to pass a bill that dramatically changes the current health care law,” McConnell said when asked if he has the votes.

“I think the leader has made it pretty clear we’re going to vote, one way or another, and hopefully we’ll have 50 votes when that time comes,” Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Thune said when asked if he believed McConnell would bring a bill to the floor that didn’t have the votes to pass.

While no Republican senator has yet come out opposed the bill, McConnell has only a two-vote margin of error with many senators voicing problems with the legislation.

“If our bill comes in with greater subsidies than Obamacare, it makes it hard for conservatives to support a bill that actually has greater subsidies than Obamacare,” Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., told reporters in regards to the tax credits in the GOP plan. “That for me is a nonstarter.”

Conservatives like Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee have Utah have been skeptical about the bill’s ability to ultimately lower premium costs for Americans. Both are seen as potential ‘no’ votes on the bill.

More moderate senators like Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska are also seen as potential ‘no’ votes on the other end of the spectrum.

Defeat of the House-passed bill wouldn’t necessarily end the health care debate in Congress, but it would redefine it.

Wisconsin GOP Sen. Ron Johnson hinted at what that would look like at a constituent event last Friday. “I’m not sure if we’re going to come up with 50 votes with a Republican solution. Let’s stabilize the markets and then, long-term, work with the Democrats colleagues to actually fix the healthcare system,” Johnson said.

The White House Doesn’t Love It — Yet

The White House has maintained a light tough when it comes to shaping the policies in the health care bill, but President Trump reportedly told a group of senators last week that the bill passed in the House was “mean” and he wanted the final bill to do more to help needier Americans.

On Tuesday, White House Spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters the president “wants a bill that has heart in it” but did not offer any specific policies Trump wants in the bill. Spicer also said he didn’t know if the president had seen a draft of the Senate bill.

If the Senate approves a bill next week, it still has more hurdles to go. The House either needs to pass the Senate bill as-is and send it to Trump’s desk, or the House and Senate have to go into a third round of negotiations in which both chambers would have to vote again on a final, compromise bill.

Either way, the health care debate is likely to continue into July if the Senate can pass a bill next week.

Democrats Debate How Far To Take Their Fight

Senate Democrats can’t filibuster the bill because it’s protected under special budget rules and only requires a majority vote. They’re all going to oppose it, but they can’t ultimately stop it from eventually getting an up-or-down vote.

Democrats have started a series of protests this week that could intensify as the Senate approaches that vote. They held the floor Monday evening for a series of speeches in opposition to the bill. On Tuesday, they invoked a rule to block any committee hearings from taking place that afternoon to draw attention to their opposition to the health care bill.

Outside Democratic activists associated with Indivisible are calling for Democrats to use every procedural tactic available to slow down debate. Since amendments are unlimited on a bill like this, one activist has even called on Democrats to introduce 40,000 amendments to keep the Senate on the bill through the 2018 midterms.

It’s unclear how Democrats will respond next week, but Schumer said Republicans should expect a fight. “If Republicans won’t relent and debate their health care bill in the open for the American people to see, then they shouldn’t expect business as usual in the Senate,” Schumer said in a statement.

NPR congressional reporters Scott Detrow and Geoff Bennett contributed to this report.

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Democrats Tie Up The Senate To Protest GOP Health Care Push

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The Republican effort to overhaul the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, has led to a standoff in the Senate.

Senate Democrats on Monday night began using parliamentary maneuvers to slow Senate business as part of a coordinated protest against the GOP push to pass an Obamacare replacement bill. A small group of Republican senators has been working in private for weeks, shielding from public view the bill and the negotiations surrounding it.

In a show of frustration with what they deem the GOP’s “shameful” and “secret” legislative process, Democrats on Monday also held the Senate floor with a series of back-to-back speeches.

“If Republicans are not going to allow debate on their bill on the floor or in committee, Democrats will make opportunities to debate,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, speaking Monday on the Senate floor. “And these are merely the first steps we’re prepared to take in order to shine a light on the shameful Trumpcare bill and reveal to the public the GOP’s backroom deal-making.”

Liberal activists cheered on social media as Schumer forced McConnell to object to a motion to hold public hearings on the health care bill, and then pressed the Republican leader to commit to 10 hours of open debate.

WOW: @SenateMajLdr blatantly refuses to give senators more than 10 hours to read & amend Obamacare repeal bill (that we have yet to see!) pic.twitter.com/0rToMLll3g

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Senate Democrats, in taking action Monday, are inserting themselves into a process that has excluded them by design. Democratic lawmakers are also responding to growing pressure from progressive activists who have been calling for more aggressive opposition. Members of the Democratic base have expressed concern that Republicans are moving forward with their health care bill while attention has been focused elsewhere — namely on the Russia investigations.

Some Republicans are also out of the loop

It’s not just Democrats who have been left out of the health care deliberations. Many Republican senators have seen little more than an outline and a Power Point summary of the Senate health care legislation that is being drafted.

“It’s not unusual, especially for a big bill like this. It’s okay that the drafting is happening behind closed doors,” Tommy Binion, a congressional liaison at the conservative Heritage Foundation, told NPR’s Morning Edition.

While GOP senators aren’t objecting to the process as vehemently as Democrats, a number of Republicans, including Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., say the health care legislation should eventually be subject to open debate.

“If it’s an effort to rush it from a small group of people straight to the floor on an up or down vote, it’ll be a problem,” Rubio said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union.

McConnell: “Nobody is hiding the ball here”

The Republican health care bill could be voted on as early as next week – ahead of the July 4th recess — without any committee hearings or public input. For his part, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is defending the closed health care talks.

“Nobody is hiding the ball here,” McConnell, R-Ky., told reporters last week. “There have been gazillions of hearings on this subject when [Democrats] were in the majority, when we were in the majority. We understand the issue very well and we are now coming up with a solution.”

Republicans contend the secret Senate negotiations give them time and space free from scrutiny to hash out the significant and serious differences among themselves over contentious issues, such as phasing out Medicaid expansion and determining the plan’s coverage requirements.

Democrats say the closed talks are a tacit acknowledgment by Republicans that their efforts are unpopular.

“There’s only one reason why Republicans are doing this: They’re ashamed of their bill,” said Schumer on Monday. “The Republicans are writing their health care bill under the cover of darkness because they’re ashamed of it, plain and simple.”

While the Senate is crafting its own legislation, the House-passed American Health Care Act is viewed unfavorably by a majority of Americans – 55 percent – compared with 31 percent who viewed it favorably, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation poll released in May.

What’s more, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the House health care bill would result in 23 million fewer people with insurance in a decade, and it would leave many sicker and older Americans with much higher costs.

Republicans eager to move on from health care

Still, Senate Republicans badly want to take up other priorities such as overhauling the country’s tax code.

“We’ve been debating Obamacare’s failures and what to do about them for so many years now,” McConnell said Monday on the Senate floor. “Members are very, very familiar with this issue. Thankfully, at the end of this process, the Senate will finally have a chance to turn the page on this failed law.”

Any legislation the Senate passes would head back to the House for consideration before President Trump can sign it into law.

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