June 8, 2019

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San Francisco Community Rallies To Save Historic Comedy Club

Punch Line, the oldest comedy club San Francisco, may be the next casualty in the city’s steady march from bohemian enclave to tech office park. Politicians and comedians are fighting to save it.



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Comedian Dave Chappelle calls it one of the most important rooms for American culture. And now this room is at risk of being lost forever to the accelerating forces of big tech. Punch Line Comedy Club, the oldest in San Francisco’s once-vibrant standup scene, cannot renew its lease. And it’s not because Punch Line doesn’t have the money. NPR’s Aarti Shahani has this story.

AARTI SHAHANI, BYLINE: Punch Line opened its doors in 1978. Household names have stood on this stage – Robin Williams, Dana Carvey, Ali Wong, Nato Green. All right, that last one is only household in the local scene.

NATE GREEN: I need to talk to you about politics. Some people don’t want to talk about politics. They’re, like, Nato, why do you got to talk about politics? What do politics have to do with me? I’m not an immigrant or a black person or a Muslim or gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or a Jew or a woman or an old person or a young person.

SHAHANI: You get it. By day, Green is a labor organizer fighting for nurses at the hospital renamed after Mark Zuckerberg’s family. By night, he’s grappling with becoming the entertainment help for the Facebook, Google, Apple, Salesforce engineers looking to unwind after their hard day’s work. Green tells himself to smile more when he’s about to singe his audience, like now.

GREEN: And if you’re a tech person, I want you to know I don’t hate you. I don’t have anything against you personally, just everything that you represent.

SHAHANI: Punch Line may be the next casualty in San Francisco’s march from bohemian enclave to tech office park. At least six comedy clubs have closed in the last decade. Punch Line was supposed to be invincible. It’s owned by Live Nation, a multi-billion-dollar company. But bigger billionaires have declined to renew the club’s lease. Green and other comedians speculate that property owner Morgan Stanley has a different vision for a space – tech workers to replace culture workers.

GREEN: People programming computer programs so that other people somewhere else can look up what it is like to be in person at a comedy club – that’s instead of having an actual human experience.

SHAHANI: Tech has created opportunities for comedy – the endless stream of curated standup on Netflix and Hulu. But Green says that’s no substitute for the messy, creative chaos of the physical world. He and his friends got paid to try out new material, fail and fail fast or rise in this intimate venue.

CHRIS GARCIA: It looks exactly the same. I mean…

SHAHANI: Comedian Chris Garcia, this night’s headliner, at the bar in the back.

Yeah, the rug definitely doesn’t look new.

GARCIA: Yeah, that rug is old. Yeah, you look at this brass. This is – like, that’s from the cocaine days (laughter).

SHAHANI: Comedian-organizer Green turned this fight to save the Punch Line into an all-out campaign. He sent up the smoke signal. In response, one of the biggest names in comedy came and stood beside him on the steps of San Francisco City Hall.

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DAVE CHAPPELLE: When I quit my show, that room became like a home to me.

SHAHANI: Dave Chappelle, who came to town to perform at the Punch Line.

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CHAPPELLE: It was the last place I saw Robin Williams alive. It was the place I was at when I found out I was having my first kid.

SHAHANI: Now, the skeptics may say, just move the club to a new space. What’s the big deal?

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CHAPPELLE: It’d be like burning down the Louvre or selling the Louvre to somebody. And there’s beautiful art that’s going up in this city, and you can’t just put it in another room. That room is special.

SHAHANI: This past week, the government stepped in. City supervisors unanimously passed an emergency ordinance that says whatever the owner wants to do with the room, it’s got to be used for entertainment. The move was unusual and also temporary. Morgan Stanley declined to comment, but one of its other tenants, Google, said in a statement they want to keep the Punch Line as their neighbors. Aarti Shahani, NPR News, San Francisco.

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Saturday Sports: Toronto Raptors, Women’s World Cup

The NBA and NHL are in the middle of finals, while the Women’s World Cup begins. NPR’s Scott Simon talks to ESPN’s Howard Bryant.



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Revile the reptile. The Toronto Raptors are just a win away from a world championship over one of the world’s greatest franchises. And in hockey, the St. Louis Blues could also put away the Boston Bruins. In Paris, it’s le football season, eh? The Women’s World Cup kicked off yesterday. Howard Bryant of espn.com and ESPN The Magazine, which is going away later this year, but you’ll still be with us, right, Howard?

HOWARD BRYANT, BYLINE: I’m still with you, Scott. How are you?

SIMON: Fine, thank you. Good to talk to you, my friend. Listen – oh, wait, I got another one, OK?

BRYANT: No. Please. Don’t do it.

SIMON: No, no. Hey, Howard – cut his mic. Here we go. Hence forth, the North.

BRYANT: (Laughter).

SIMON: How’s that?

BRYANT: (Laughter).

SIMON: A little better?

BRYANT: We – I think we, the north, just works. And it’s been working really, really well…

SIMON: Been working well for them. OK.

BRYANT: …For the Toronto Raptors right now.

SIMON: The Raptors drubbed – drubbed the Dubs, if you please – 105-92 last night. It’s not just that they were three games – up three games to one. They’ve looked in command in almost every quarter of the series, haven’t they?

BRYANT: Well, they have. And once again, as we say all the time, is that the NBA is the best player wins the sport. And right now, Kawhi Leonard is the best player on the planet. And let’s also just not forget that the Warriors are playing very shorthanded. They didn’t have Kevon Looney for the – for Game 3. They – obviously, Kevin Durant hasn’t played in the entire series. You didn’t have Klay Thompson in Game 3.

And so on top of everything else that’s taken place with them as a team and going to the finals five straight seasons and trying to win three straight championships – to be the first team to do that, you know, in years anyway – and I think that this is a – it’s an amazing, amazing run for them. But the pressure is also very difficult for them, too.

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: It’s a hard conversation to have because you wish that you would have both teams playing at full strength, but you got to deal with what’s in front of you. And the Toronto Raptors – never been in the finals – and they are playing great basketball right now.

SIMON: I got to ask. Look; a co-owner of the Warriors, an investment billionaire named Mark Stevens – and I have read he has given lots of money to many good causes – felt that his courtside seat entitled him the other night to shove and swear at Toronto’s Kyle Lowry. This is the kind of fan that gives fans a bad name.

BRYANT: Yeah, most certainly. And he’s not a fan. He’s a co-owner. So he’s not just a fan. He’s…

SIMON: Right.

BRYANT: …Somebody who’s got a financial stake in the game. It was an ugly incident. It was completely unnecessary. It would be very surprising to me if the NBA doesn’t come down on him to the point where he’s not – where he’s forced to sell his shares. I think that this is one of those examples, too, where you’re going to find out the power of the players in terms of how much they’re going to take from fans and especially co-owners because let’s not forget, this has been a theme throughout the NBA season…

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: …Where fan abuse has become something that is – just, you know, where the players have decided that, hey, we’re not going to take this anymore. We’re not zoo animals, OK? You’re here to watch…

SIMON: Yup.

BRYANT: …The game, but you also have to respect us.

SIMON: NHL finals – next game is tomorrow. The St. Louis Blues up 3-2 over the Boston Bruins. Why and how?

BRYANT: Well, No. 1, because they’re a very, very tough team. And that’s the – this is funny. We talk about hockey in the 2000s, but this looks like hockey in the 1970s. I thought I was watching the…

SIMON: Yeah.

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SIMON: Yeah, Blues and Bruins, yeah.

BRYANT: Exactly. I thought I was watching the Bruins and the Flyers from ’74. The Blues are a brutal, brutal, tough hockey team, and they are just physic – you know, they’re very physical. They’re crushing the Bruins. In terms of hits, there’s been suspensions in this playoff. But the bottom line – you know, the Bruins are complaining about the referees. But the bottom line is that the Blues have just been – they’ve outlasted everybody. They just continue to be a really tough hockey team. And they’re one game away from doing something that franchise has never done, which is win the Stanley Cup.

SIMON: Yeah. Women’s World Cup started yesterday. The U.S. plays its first match Tuesday against Thailand. Who looks good? I am told – aha – Les Bleus.

BRYANT: Well, they’re the hosts, so they always look good. But obviously, the defending champions are the United States. You’ve got a great group going on. You’ve got Japan and England in the same group. And Japan and the United States have played back-to-back finals. So I think that, obviously, the United States are the favorites. You’ve got Germany, England and Japan. Japan’s not as good as they were the last couple of World Cups. But at the same time, I’m looking at the United States. They’re the – to me, they’re the team to beat.

SIMON: French Open starts today. No names that I recognized; you would, my friend.

BRYANT: Well, the big star – or not the star – the infamous star of this entire tournament has been the weather because it has been very, very difficult to try to get these matches in. And by the end of this tournament, I think people are going to look at this tournament, and they’re going to say we’re going to remember this one for the rain instead of the players.

SIMON: Yeah.

BRYANT: Yeah.

SIMON: Howard Bryant of ESPN, thanks so much for being with us.

BRYANT: Oh, my pleasure.

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Storytelling Helps Hospital Staff Discover The Person Within The Patient

Thor Ringler (right) interviewed Ray Miller (left) in Miller’s hospital room at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison, Wis., in April. Miller’s daughter Barbara (center) brought in photos and a press clipping from Miller’s time in the National Guard to help facilitate the conversation.

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Bob Hall was recovering from yet another surgery when the volunteer first walked into his hospital room. It was March 2014, and unfortunately Hall had been in and out of the hospital quite a bit. It had been a rocky recovery since his lung transplant, three months earlier, at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison, Wis.

But the volunteer wasn’t there to check on his lungs or breathing. Instead she asked Hall if we wanted to tell his life story.

Hall was being treated at the VA because he had served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. After the war, he had a political career as a Massachusetts legislator, and then led professional associations for 30 years.

Hall, who was 67 at the time, welcomed the volunteer and told her he’d be happy to participate.

“I’m anything but a shy guy, and I’m always eager to share details about my life,” Hall says, half-jokingly.

He spoke to the volunteer for more than an hour about everything — from his time as “a D student” in high school (“I tell people I graduated in the top 95 percent of my class”) to his time in the military (“I thought the Marines were the toughest branch and I wanted to stop the communists”). He finished his story with a description of his health problems — those that that finally landed him in the hospital, and many that continue to the present day.

The interview was part of a program called My Life, My Story. Volunteer writers seek out vets like Hall in the hospital, and ask them about their lives. Then they write up this life story, a 1,000-word biography, and go over it with the patient, who can add more details or correct any mistakes.

“Of course, being a writer I rewrote the whole thing,” Hall confesses with a smile.

Once the story is finished, it’s entered into to the patient’s electronic medical record, so any doctor or nurse working anywhere in the VA system who opens the medical record can read it.

Hall was one of the earliest patients interviewed for the project, back in 2014. Today more than 2,000 patients at the Madison VA have shared their personal life stories.

Project organizers say My Life, My Story could change the way providers interact with patients at VA hospitals around the country.

Bob Hall was one of the earliest patients to be interviewed for the My Life, My Story program at the VA hospital in Madison, Wisc. “I’d never experienced something like that in a hospital before,” Hall says.

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A close-up of Hall’s photograph of his conversation with children in a Vietnamese village. He served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War — an important part of his personal story.

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Personalizing impersonal records

“If you’re a health care person, if you’re someone who is in the [electronic medical] record all the time, you’ll know that the record is a mess,” says Thor Ringler, who has managed the My Life, My Story project since 2013.

Clinicians can get access to a lot of medical data through a patient’s electronic medical record, but there’s nowhere to learn about a patient’s personality, or learn about her career, passions or values, Ringler says.

“If you were to try to get a sense of someone’s life from that record, it might take you days,” Ringler says.

The idea for My Life, My Story came from Dr. Elliot Lee, a medical resident who was doing a training rotation at the Madison VA in 2012. The typical rotation for medical residents lasts only about a year, so Lee wanted to find a way to bring these new, young doctors quickly up to speed on the VA patients. He wanted a way for them to absorb not just their health histories, but more personal information, like their hobbies, and which hospital staffers knew them best.

“It seemed to make sense that the patient might know a lot about themselves, and could help provide information to the new doctor,” Lee recalls.

But the question remained: What was the best way to get patients to share these details, to get their life stories into the records? Lee says he and some colleagues tried having patients fill out surveys, which were useful but still left the team wanting more. Next, they tried getting patients to write down their life stories themselves, but not many people really wanted to. Finally, an epiphany: Hire a writer to interview the patients, and put what they learned on paper.

It wasn’t hard to find a good candidate: A poet in Madison, Thor Ringler, had also just finished his training as a family therapist. He was good at talking to people, and also skilled at condensing big thoughts into concise, meaningful sentences.

“Of course!” Ringler remembers thinking. “I was made for that!'”

Thor Ringler has run the My Life, My Story program at the the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital in Madison since 2013. In that time the program has recorded life stories of more than 2,000 veterans — and placed the short biographies in each vet’s’ electronic medical record.

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Under Ringler’s guidance, the project has developed a set of training materials to allow other VA hospitals to launch their own storytelling programs. About 40 VA hospitals around the U.S. are currently interested, according to Ringler.

Based on his experience building the program in Madison, Ringler estimates hospitals would need to hire just one writer — working half- or full-time, depending on the hospital’s size — to manage a similar storytelling program. That means the budget could be as low as $23,000 a year. That relatively small investment can pay huge dividends in terms of patient satisfaction, Ringler says, by restoring personal connections between patients and the medical team.

“If we do good stories, people will read them, and they will want to read them,” he adds.

In addition to the interest from within the VA system, the idea has spread farther — to hospitals like Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, and Regions Hospital in St. Paul, Minn.

A ‘gift’ to doctors and nurses

There is also research suggesting that when caregivers know their patients better, those patients have improved health outcomes.

One study, for example, found that doctors who scored higher on an empathy test had patients with better-controlled blood sugar. Another study found that in patients with a common cold, the cold’s duration was reduced by nearly a full day for those patients who gave their doctor a top rating for empathy.

University of Colorado professor Heather Coats studies the health impact of biographical storytelling. She notes a 2008 study found that radiologists did a more thorough job when they were simply provided a photo of the patients whose scans they were reading.

“They improved the accuracy of their radiology read,” Coats says. “Meaning [fewer] misspelled words; a better report that’s more detailed.” Current research is investigating whether storytelling might have a similar effect on clinical outcomes.

And, Coats adds, the benefits of the kind of storytelling happening at the VA don’t just accrue to the patients.

“I consider it a gift to the nurses and the doctors,” Coats says.

A survey of clinicians conducted by the Madison VA backs that up: It showed 85 percent of them thought reading the biographies of patients produced by Thor Ringler’s team of writers was “a good use” of clinical time and also helped them improve patient care.

“It gives you a much better understanding about the entirety of their life and how to help them make a decision,” says Dr. Jim Maloney, a VA surgeon who performed Bob Hall’s lung transplant in 2013.

That’s critical for doctors like Maloney, because only about half the people who undergo a lung transplant are still alive after five years. Maloney believes knowing more about a patient’s life story makes it easier for the doctor to have difficult but necessary conversations with a patient — to learn, for example, how aggressively to respond if a complication occurs.

Jim Maloney, a transplant surgeon at the Madison VA, says being able to read a patient’s personal story, along with their medical story, helps him help them through difficult decisions. “It gives you a much better sense of the entirety of their lives,” Maloney says.

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Maloney says the stories generated by My Life, My Story give the entire transplant team near immediate access to a valuable tool, one that helps them connect quickly with patients and family members, and start conversations about sensitive issues or difficult choices about end-of-life care.

Dr. Tamara Feingold-Link has also experienced the power of being able to read a patient’s life story. Now a second-year medical resident at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Feingold-Link first encountered one of the biographies generated by My Life, My Story when she was on rotation at a Boston-area VA. Her attending physician asked her to run a meeting with a patient’s family.

“I barely knew the patient, who was so sick he could hardly talk,” Feingold-Link recalls.

She noticed his medical record included the patient’s life story, something she had never seen before. She immediately read the story.

“It brought me to tears,” she remembers. “When I met his family, I could connect with them immediately.”

“It made his transfer to hospice much smoother for everyone involved,” she says.

Now Dr. Feingold-Link has started a similar program at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

Meaningful stories go beyond medical care

Bob Hall has learned the stories can be meaningful to caregivers even when they’re not working. During one of his stays at the Madison VA, a nursing aide came into his room after she read his life story in his medical record.

“She came in one night and sat down on my bed just to talk to me for a while, because she’d read my story,” Hall says. “I found out later she wasn’t on the clock. She just came in after her shift ended to chat for a while.”

It’s been 5 years since Hall’s lung transplant, and he’s doing well. He even found a part-time job putting his writing skills to work as part of the My Life, My Story team. In just two years, Hall has written 208 capsule biographies of veterans who come to this hospital for care, just like he did.

“Dr. Maloney came to me one day recently, and I was telling him how many stories I’d done,” Halls says, “and he says, ‘You know I think you’ve given more back to the VA with these stories than they gave to you.'”

“I said, ‘Doctor, I don’t think that’s true, but it’s very kind of you to say so.’ It made me feel good.”

This story is part of NPR’s reporting partnership with Kaiser Health News.

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