June 4, 2019

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Lawmakers Turn To Look At The Economics, Equity And Fairness Of Silicon Valley

Lawmakers and regulators are both looking into antitrust violations, getting tougher on a quest to strengthen oversight of Big Tech. But antitrust laws were written with other industries in mind.



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The House plans to hold a series of hearings on Big Tech and the threat of monopoly power. Meanwhile, regulators plan to probe four tech giants in particular. The drumbeat to crack down on Facebook, Amazon, Google and Apple is growing louder here in the U.S.

NPR’s Aarti Shahani has been following the latest developments. And Aarti, to begin, it’s been a long time – right? – where the American political establishment has been criticized for basically giving tech giants a pass. That doesn’t seem to be the case now. What’s going on?

AARTI SHAHANI, BYLINE: Yeah, that’s right. The House Judiciary Committee announced yesterday they’re going to hold multiple hearings on antitrust issues. So much like we saw lots of investigation and testimony on Russian interference in U.S. elections and the role of Facebook in that, lawmakers are turning to look at the economics of Silicon Valley and equity fairness.

I’d say this shift got a real jump-start with the presidential candidates earlier this year, especially Elizabeth Warren, calling for the breakup of the largest companies. What’s interesting with the House move is that it is bipartisan. In a statement, Congressman Doug Collins, a Republican from Georgia – he said lawmakers have got to take a look at whether the market remains competitive. I don’t think that means he’s going to echo Warren’s call any time soon, though.

And it’s not just Congress. According to multiple news reports, the Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission are going to probe specific companies, and they struck a deal to divide up the work. Justice may take Apple and Alphabet – that’s the parent company of Google – and the FTC, Facebook and Amazon.

CORNISH: What’s the thinking behind that division of labor?

SHAHANI: So antitrust is a quick label for a long list of concerns. One concern is mergers that make a company way too big. The FTC formed a task force a few months back to look at that. Think Facebook acquiring WhatsApp and Instagram, Amazon buying Whole Foods and Audible. So that could be why the FTC is focusing on those two companies.

Meanwhile, critics have raised questions about what’s happening inside the big app stores. Are developers of apps getting a fair deal? Are consumers? So it could be that’s why Justice would take Google and Apple.

CORNISH: Aarti, how does this compare to the developments in the European Union? They’ve been at the forefront of the so-called techlash.

SHAHANI: Yeah. It is absolutely the case that Europe has acted quicker. They’ve drafted and passed laws on hate speech. They’ve leveled multibillion-dollar fines against Google and Apple. But whether or not they’re a model of action – well, you know, that depends on who you ask.

I spoke with two lawyers, both antitrust experts – one from Paris, the other Chicago. The Paris lawyer says, listen; you Americans fell asleep at the wheel back in the 1980s. You let your antitrust approach focus way too narrowly on one issue. If consumers are getting a bum deal, because Facebook is free, according to the American approach, it can’t be bad. But he said European regulators understand the real problem is competition. When companies get way too big, there’s no space for startups.

Now, Randy Picker – he’s at the University of Chicago Law School. He thinks the U.S. needs to take a hard look at Big Tech. But he does not want Americans following the European approach, even if they’ve been far more aggressive.

RANDY PICKER: I do not think they’ve accomplished very much. I do not. They’ve extracted a bunch of money, but have they actually changed competition on the ground in these areas? I don’t think so.

SHAHANI: He says what might really matter is looking at specific, well-defined ways companies have gotten too much power – say, over data, over industries – and then make them share.

CORNISH: So what can we expect to see in the coming months?

SHAHANI: Well, I’d say years, not months. Tech CEOs are going to be sitting in hearings, answering hours of questions, much like we saw Mark Zuckerberg do last year. Investors are going to keep an eye on this. So stocks will go up and down a lot. And this question of whether tech companies are too big – the outsized role they play in everything we do, the fact that one platform can reach, you know, more than two billion people – that’s becoming a mainstream political issue.

CORNISH: That’s NPR’s Aarti Shahani. Aarti, thanks.

SHAHANI: Thank you.

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VA Secretary Robert Wilkie On Allowing More Veterans To Seek Private Health Care

NPR’s Ari Shapiro talks to Robert Wilkie, secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, about a new program that launches June 6 that would allow more veterans to seek private health care.



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We’re going to spend the next few minutes talking about something that we don’t often see in Washington these days, a bill that passed Congress with overwhelming bipartisan support. It’s called the MISSION Act. And starting this week, it will bring big changes to the Department of Veterans Affairs, particularly when it comes to health care. The law expands the number of veterans who qualify for private care that is reimbursed by the VA.

Today I spoke with the Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie, and he told me the number of veterans seeking health care outside the VA has actually gone down recently. So I asked the secretary – if that’s the case, how many people does he expect to take advantage of this expansion?

ROBERT WILKIE: I don’t see that large a rise. The way the system is set up is that the veteran will come to us, we will tell him that we cannot provide a service. And because he lives outside a certain number of minutes from a VA facility and we’re telling him that the wait time is greater than 20 days, then he has the option of going into the private sector.

SHAPIRO: As you know, critics are afraid that this is a move towards privatizing…

WILKIE: Right.

SHAPIRO: …VA health care. Explain why you disagree with that view.

WILKIE: Well, I just presented a $220 billion budget, a budget that also calls for an employee base of 390,000. Ten years ago, the budget was 98 billion, and we had 280,000 employees. So if we’re going about privatizing this, we’re going about it in a very strange way.

SHAPIRO: But on its surface, doesn’t expanding eligibility for private care constitute a shift away from government-provided health care, whether or not this is part of, as critics would accuse, some kind of Trojan horse larger project of privatization?

WILKIE: Well, no, not if you read the MISSION Act. My goal is to provide the best possible health care because it’s not only the right thing to do, but the Congress said it right there in the legislation. And because of the nature of our patient base – people like my father, who suffered terrible combat wounds in Cambodia – there’s nothing in the private sector that is going to understand or take care of someone who has suffered that kind of trauma in battle. There’s just no other place like it.

SHAPIRO: I’d like to talk about another important topic, which is expanding efforts to prevent veteran suicide.

WILKIE: Yes.

SHAPIRO: The VA has said this is the highest clinical priority.

WILKIE: Right.

SHAPIRO: Something like 20 veterans die each day by suicide. And this number has, for the most part, been pretty consistent.

WILKIE: Yes.

SHAPIRO: Why, after years of making this a priority, hasn’t the VA been able to make a real improvement in this area?

WILKIE: Well, I don’t think the country has made it a priority. I’ve said that we need a national conversation on mental health, homelessness and addiction.

SHAPIRO: But you’re in charge of the VA…

WILKIE: Yeah.

SHAPIRO: …So let’s talk about what the VA is doing.

WILKIE: Yeah. Well, the VA has got very specific programs. Every veteran who comes to us gets a mental health screening. Every veteran who comes to us has same-day mental health services.

SHAPIRO: So why haven’t the numbers improved?

WILKIE: Here’s just the problem. All of these cases are not related. Give you an example – 14 of the 20 who take their lives are veterans that we have no contact with; a couple are on active duty; several are on guard and reserve duty and never deployed. And the bulk are from the Vietnam era. Lyndon Johnson left Washington, D.C., 50 years ago in January, and many of these problems have been brewing ever since that time.

So we’re not going to be able to get these numbers erased. But we have to change the culture that we start training troops, from the time they get into boot camp to the time they leave, not only on their own mental health but to see signs in their buddies. And I will also say, you know, our Veterans Crisis Line gets 1,700 calls a day. Of those 1,700, we act on 200 to 300 calls, where we send people out and we get those veterans help.

SHAPIRO: Does the VA have enough mental health providers right now?

WILKIE: Well, we are in the same position the United States is in. We were able to hire 3,900 mental health professionals last year. I think NPR has covered the fact that most of our medical schools are sending their students into the most expensive specialties out there, and VA suffers just as the rest of America suffers.

SHAPIRO: Secretary Wilkie, the last thing I would like to ask you about is a surprising moment that happened on the campaign trail recently…

WILKIE: Yeah.

SHAPIRO: …Where Congressman Seth Moulton of Massachusetts…

WILKIE: Yes.

SHAPIRO: …He’s a veteran running for the Democratic…

WILKIE: Right.

SHAPIRO: …Nomination. He did four combat tours in Iraq.

WILKIE: Yeah.

SHAPIRO: And at a campaign event last week, he spoke very frankly and openly about his experience with…

WILKIE: Yes.

SHAPIRO: …PTSD. This is what he told NPR about that moment.

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SETH MOULTON: Now I’m applying to lead the country, and I think it would be disingenuous not to lead by example and share my own story about my own struggles with these issues.

SHAPIRO: What’s your reaction to seeing this kind of an honest conversation happening in a forum as prominent as a presidential campaign?

WILKIE: Well, it is about time. It is about time. We are seeing a generational shift in the armed forces of the United States, where we finally talk about these things; we don’t hide them. The military is a conservative institutions for many reasons, and one of them is it takes it a long time to change. But the more we hear voices like this – the more we talk about it, I think, we’ll be in a much better place.

SHAPIRO: Robert Wilkie is secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Thank you for joining us today.

WILKIE: Ari, thank you for having me.

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