January 15, 2017

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Poll Shows What The Public Does And Does Not Know About Obamacare

NPR and the polling firm IPSOS have a new poll out that suggests the public might not be as enthusiastic about repealing Obamacare as their representatives are.

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We’re going to hone in on health care for a few more minutes. As we said, Republicans in Congress have taken some initial steps toward repealing the Affordable Care Act. But NPR and the polling firm Ipsos have a new poll out that suggests that the public might not be as enthusiastic as many lawmakers are about an all-out repeal, at least not without something to take its place. The poll also offers interesting insights about what the public does and does not know about the Affordable Healthcare Act.

NPR’s health correspondent, Alison Kodjak, is here to tell us more about all of this. Alison, thanks so much for joining us.

ALISON KODJAK, BYLINE: Thanks for having me, Michel.

MARTIN: First, Alison, tell us some of the significant findings of this poll.

KODJAK: So the poll showed what I think a lot of people know, which is that the public is largely split on Obamacare. They’re – about 45 percent of people hate it and 44 percent say they like it. But within that split there are some interesting results, which is those people who say they want the law repealed, more than half of them want to see it replaced. They don’t just want it to go away. So in terms of people who want some sort of health care structures to remain in place, that’s the vast majority of people in the country now.

MARTIN: There were some surprising findings, too, at least surprising given the public debate that’s taken place over the last year and over the course of this election. Tell us a little bit more about that.

KODJAK: In the context of this sort of everybody seeming to want to repeal this law, more than half of the people in the poll say that the Affordable Care Act has done more good than harm. So people have a positive, you know, view of what this law has done. And – this was interesting to me – 55 percent of the people we polled said they would prefer to see a single-payer health system in this country. You know, that – it did break down on party lines. Seventy percent of those were Democrats. But among independents, 55 percent wanted to see single-payer.

MARTIN: Tell us about what people did and did not know, given how important this policy has been to the Obama administration. One thing that stood out for me is that a majority of those surveyed did know that the Affordable Care Act protects people with pre-existing conditions from being refused coverage and that it requires insurance companies to pay for preventive care, but there was something that they didn’t know.

KODJAK: What they don’t know is that the Affordable Care Act has extended insurance to millions of millions of people, that the uninsured rate has dropped dramatically since the law passed. And that just seems like the one fact the Obama administration should be getting out there. And people aren’t really hearing it.

MARTIN: So as we said, the Republicans in Congress are setting in motion a framework for repealing the Affordable Care Act. Are we seeing any signs that lawmakers are responding to this new information?

KODJAK: It seems they are. And, you know, here’s what I have seen. Immediately after the election, when Republicans realized they were going to have the ability to repeal the Affordable Care Act, their plan was to repeal the law immediately when they come back to Washington and replace it some time down the line.

And what we’re hearing now since Congress came into session in January – and we’re hearing it from President-elect Donald Trump – is we’re going to repeal it and replace it simultaneously. So even though they’re on their way to repealing it, there’s a sense that they’re going to potentially slow that down while they come up with this replacement plan that they haven’t actually showed the public up till now.

MARTIN: That’s NPR health correspondent Alison Kodjak. Alison, thanks so much.

KODJAK: Thanks for having me.

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San Diego Chargers To Move To Los Angeles

San Diego Chargers fans were upset by the owner’s announcement that the team will move to Los Angeles. Juliet Litman, managing editor of The Ringer, talks about reaction from fans.

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The owner of the San Diego Chargers has confirmed after much speculation that he’s moving his team to LA. Chargers fans did not take it well. At least one fan lobbed eggs at the team’s headquarters. Others burned memorabilia.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: I just took my Charger gear off and put it in the pile with the rest of them like the garbage that the Chargers are.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I’ve spent a lot of money. I’m a season ticket holder. And it just makes me sad that I can’t be anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: My mom and my uncle, they’re probably turning over in their grave right now ’cause they’re the reason that I’m a Charger fan right now.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: We’re going to talk about the agony of abandonment on this week’s Sunday Sport Chat, our weekly conversation about sports and culture on and off the field. Joining us today is Juliet Litman. She’s managing editor of the sports website The Ringer. Thanks so much for being with us.

JULIET LITMAN: Yeah, no problem. Thanks for having me.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Let’s talk about the Chargers particularly. What do they mean to their fans? We just heard there one man talking about a family legacy, real grief.

LITMAN: Well, I think NFL teams in general inspire so much connection between the fans and the players and the organization. And I think that the most sort of dramatic examples of fan abandonment, as you put it, really come from NFL teams. And that, of course, includes the Chargers. I think it’s also a little bit trickier here opposed to a move like the Rams last year where they’re not really moving that far.

So it’s almost like adding insult to injury where the Chargers are so important to their fans and the sense of, like, what the city is. You know, they’re a city with two teams, or they were – the Padres and the Chargers – and now they’ve lost the Chargers. But it’s not like they’ve moved across the country. They’ve just moved 90 minutes away, essentially.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Do fans continue to follow a team like the Chargers when it’s skipped town, or is it like a spurned lover type of thing? You know, I never want to hear their name again. They’ve left me.

LITMAN: Sure. I think it’s definitely more of the latter, of the spurned lover. A lot of – if you read the literature of teams moving, a lot of times it’s compared to a divorce. And the feelings are really quite intense. And I think the divorce metaphor actually works well here because if you care about football, it’s not like you can just kind of block out the team if you want to remain invested in the NFL. You know, there’s a limited number of teams, and they’ll be coming across your news transom. But a lot of the fans that stay invested in the sport move on from the team.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: To keep on with this metaphor, belabor it, if you will…

LITMAN: Sure.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: …Do they fall in love again? Do they – you know, do they find another team to root for?

LITMAN: I don’t know in the case of the Chargers. It seems unlikely there’ll be another team in San Diego any time soon. So I think that you direct your passions towards a different sport or a different team. I remember when the Nets moved to Brooklyn from New Jersey there was a conversation of do Nets fans go with them, or is that a time where when your team is leaving you can just jump on a different ship? And I think that often jumping on a different ship is more satisfying. I think with the Chargers, they’ll keep some of their fans. But I think that it will be a lot of resentment towards Dean Spanos, the owner.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So team leaves, bereft fans on the one side, and then the Chargers are moving to LA. Let’s use them as an example. That’s a town with a lot of sports teams. Is there room in the heart of, you know, Los Angelenos for a new team? I mean, will the Chargers find a new fan base?

LITMAN: I think it’s going to be tough. I live in Los Angeles, and we’re just coming off of the first Rams season in over 20 years. And, you know, they were playing at the Coliseum. They don’t have their stadium yet. But they were not filling the stadium yet, and that has been a big narrative around them. The Lakers and the Dodgers are so popular here.

And even the Clippers, who have been here a long time, also having moved from San Diego, have yet to find that same dedicated fan base despite the fact they’ve actually been much better than the Lakers for the last few years and they have two legitimate stars in Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. So if that’s any indication of a San Diego team moving up the coast, it doesn’t bode well for the Chargers, particularly since the Rams are still trying to find – like, re-find their footing as a Los Angeles team.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Juliet Litman of The Ringer. Really enjoyed having you on. Thanks.

LITMAN: Thanks so much.

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